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  • Hi everyone!

    Thought I’d post to introduce myself and get my aims out there. Someone once told me that writing a goal down and sharing it with others makes you more likely to achieve it, rather than keeping it to yourself. I am hoping this is true and counting on this site and forum to hold me accountable!

    I’m 33 years old, single, no kids. Work full time in what can be a fairly stressful local government office in Hampshire.

    I like to think that I am fairly healthy but in reality, lately, my fitness has stalled and my eating habits are awful! I have an *incredibly* sweet tooth and once a craving hits I have to have something to get my fix! Having said that, I have successfully kicked my diet coke habit in the last few months (I was drinking a minimum of 2 of the 500ml bottles a day). I’ve always loved Diet Coke and when on Weight Watchers I used it to get my sugar fix instead of having chocolate etc. But I’ve weaned myself off of that and barely have any at all now.

    If I can do that, I can do this!

    Friend’s tell me I don’t need to lose weight and I look great however I am not comfortable in my own skin. I’ve crept up from a size 10 to a size 12-14. My BMI is 26 and although I know BMI is not the best to go by, I don’t feel as healthy as I could. I’d like to lose about 2 stone (2.5 would be my dream goal but I’m being realistic) and get my BMI well into the healthy range. Then I’d not only feel better about how I look, but I would feel happier about my health. And hopefully be back in a size 10!

    I’ve got the Fast Diet book and am eagerly reading this.

    My intentions:
    *I will start next week with my first fast being Monday 11th July 2016.
    *I will regularly fast on Monday’s and Thursday’s.
    *I will run 3 times a week with my running app.
    *I will weigh in every Sunday and record my measurements each week.

    I’m ready! Lets do this!!!!!!!!

    Amy 🙂

    Hi Amy, congratulations!
    I wish I had got onto 5:2 when I was 33 years old and 2 stone overweight (instead of 58, and 6 stone to lose!).
    I hope you find 5:2 works well for you. It can take a bit of work to sort out which days to fast, what is best to eat on fast days, and when. You might need to adjust as you go on.
    And then the even bigger task, often, is to work out how to eat normal healthy portions of normal healthy meals on the non fast days.
    It is a good journey to be on and will set you up for the rest of your life.

    My biggest tip: work on making it a sustainable part of life.
    All power to you!

    Like five said, don’t treat it as a diet but a way of life. This new eating plan will be with you for the rest of your life so it has to be sustainable. I now do 6:1 maintenance.

    Try and limit carb dense foods like bread, pasta, pizza, potatoes. Avoid fruit juice like the plague, no difference to just eating sugar. Eat whole fruits if you want fruit. Try and get most of your carbs from veggies. Limit alcohol consumption, empty calories and it must be processed by the liver and stored as fat.

    Hi Amy,
    I started this about 5 weeks ago. The first few fast days were pretty hard, however, hang-in there, it gets easier! I’ve found that I feel better about myself because this eating plan has helped with my self-control. I also don’t feel like I need food as much on my non-fast days. I have not been particularly careful on my non-fast days. I haven’t limited my carbs or alchol, or anything like that. Because of it I probably didn’t loose as much as I could have early on. However I have started to loose weight & cm’s in the past week or so. It’s all about learning about what motivates you. Personally I really enjoy my porridge & fresh, home-made bread the morning after a fast day (and a glass of wine in the evening)!
    Enjoy being more in control of how much you consume.

    Hi, I am also new here. My name is Marina, I am from Germany, 56 years old. Due to ill health I had to give up work three years ago. I am overweight, which is really no good for my health. A friend of mine from England gave me the 5:2 book recently and after reading it, I hope that it will now help me to shift the weight. I think I will need some help from the forum. Thanks and a nice day to all of you.

    5:2 works even if you don’t really change what you eat but just reduce it 1/4 TDEE for 2 days per week. It will work VERY well if you also decide to modify what kind of food you eat as well. Avoid sugar and simple carbs like bread, pasta, rice, pizza, potatoes etc. Avoid fruit juice at all costs. If you have fruit make sure it is whole fruit and have mostly the berry type fruit. Not juice and not dried fruit!! Avoid breakfast cereals at all costs. Avoid any grain based foods at all costs.

    Get rid of chocolate, cake biscuits etc. Limit your alcohol to one or two glasses per week. Get most of your carbs from veggies.

    Don’t be scared of butter, cheese, high fat low sugar yogurt.

    I lost 20kg. It works. Good luck.

    I hope someone can help me with this. I do a lot of homebaking and have no idea how to work out the calories for biscuits for example. I am glad for any advice. Thank you lots.

    Hi Marina, it is really tricky with home cooking. I hope someone can give you a good way to judge the biscuits calories. The main thing to know is that they will be much healthier than packet biscuits, but they still are ‘sometimes’ food, so only have a couple a week for a special treat!

    Hello Cinque, thank you for your msg. Does it mean that on the five days without counting calories, I stil have to watch everything I eat? I guess I misunderstood the book. That does’nt mean, that I would pig out every off day but I really thought a biscuit would be allowed more than twice a week. Have to read it again.

    Marina there is no quick way to work out calories in home baked goodies, just adding and dividing!
    You will need a calorie counter (book or on line) Then simply write a list of the ingredients, and work out the calories for each individually.
    Multiply the calories per oz (or gram) by the amount in your recipe to get the total for each item. Then add all these totals together. Finally, divide by the number of biscuits in the batch.

    You will probably get a shock as anything with butter and flour and sugar is really high in calories. I love baked goodies, but have lost 23kgs by largely avoiding them and as Cinque says, just having them as a treat. If you can wean yourself off them (apart from treats), your weight will come off much more quickly and your health will improve so much. And your ‘sweet tooth’ will be retrained and things will taste so much sweeter – try it! Good luck.

    Hello Nama, thank you very much. I sounds really complicated right now but I will have to master it because I love making things myself, simply prefer it. May I ask how long you are living by the 5:2 diet? I love the idea of this method but right now everything seems unsurmountable (don’t know if this is even the right english word!!!) to me.

    Marina I have been following 5:2 for almost 2 years and lost the weight over the first 10 months. I have dieted all my life (now 63) and had success with Weight Watchers etc but never able to keep it off. Fasting works really well because after several months, you really do change the way you eat. By having far fewer calories on your fast days and being sensible on non fast days, overall you will eat far less calories and you will lose weight. But it takes a while to get used to, so be patient with yourself. Keep reading these forums and asking questions. Just concentrate on basic 5:2 at first, then gradually tweak it to suit yourself. Remember to drink lots of water on fast days and have a bit of salt if you get a headache.
    Home baking is one of my pleasures, I just do it much less frequently now and give any leftovers away. If they are in the house (or freezer!) I can’t resist them. Also, I don’t add as much sugar, my tastes have definitely changed. I never ever would have believed this and it didn’t happen overnight. On fast days I keep out of the kitchen! But I had to do something as my (arthritic) knees were so painful and I was needing painkillers all the time. Finally saw a surgeon and he told me I needed two new knees. By losing weight I feel 20 years younger and the pain and swelling in my knees has vanished, no surgery and no drugs!! I have taken up swimming (because I love it and hate any other exercise!) and can now swim laps for an hour and enjoy it. But all this took months, so be patient and start gently. Enjoy your home baking, but only on non fast days, and try to limit it! Once you calculate how many calories is in each biscuit or piece of cake, you will realise it is not worth if if you really want to lose weight. I am sure your weight took years to pile on, it wont come off overnight, but you will feel so much better – especially when you need to buy smaller clothes!

    I started to put on lots of weight when I stopped smoking 1998 and was never able to shift it instead I keep putting it on. I am not very healthy, have a condition called ‘torticollis spasticus’. It means I live with constand pain in my neck and my head wiggles most of the time. I also suffer from athritis in my joints and also in my neck. The consequence of all this was that I had to give up work three years ago. I started to eat more mainly sweet things (winegums, etc) and nuts.I tried different things but gave in after only short times. I so hope that including two fast days in the week will help. It definately is another approach. Thank you for writing to me.

    Oh Marina that must be so painful! I am not surprised you eat for comfort. I am certain fasting will help you regain control of your eating. Thats the beauty of 5:2, we mainly only have to be ‘good’ for 2 days! Psychologically it does not feel so restricting. Eventually you wont want to eat so much on non fast days because you will see it as ‘undoing’ your good work on fast days. Anyone who can give up cigarettes can lose weight!! I am in Australia and its very late now (11.30pm), so goodnight! And good luck, keep in touch. (This forum is international, so there is always someone awake to talk to!)

    Hi Marina,

    People seem to get confused about what they call a treat. A treat is something you have only sometimes. If you are baking and having your treats 5 days per week then its not a treat!! It is a staple food. Look on the packets of ingredients that you use in when baking. Add up the weight of each ingredient and the calories per weight. Get a total amount of calories and then divide by the number of biscuits you made.

    There is no magic involved. If you want this to work then you have to put in the effort.

    Hi Marina! I quit smoking about 5 years ago and it was sooo tough to do. Congrats to you on making that huge step towards good health. Hang in there…you got this.

    Happy baking!

    Hi Theo, thank you so much for your kind words and the explanation. I have never counted calories or even given them a thought. All I did up to now is binge like crazy. I know it will have to stop. I am scared because so far all I did was fail.

    Hi again Marina, I am in Australia and it is morning now, so I am reading all the things that were written here while I was asleep!

    I’m going back to your question about your yummy home made biscuits, where I said they are best as occasional treats.

    It is true that 5:2 is all about fasting on just two days a week and then eating normally on the other five. But eating normally means different things to different people! What is a normal meal? A normal amount of snacks?

    In Australia we have these guidelines https://www.eatforhealth.gov.au/guidelines/australian-guide-healthy-eating that you might find useful.

    I’m a home cook like you, but I am putting my time into cooking really good meals on my Non Fasting days, and avoiding those high fat/ high sugar treats. I can say that 5:2 has worked really well for me, it is so exciting to be slim and look young after years of being overweight.

    Best wishes

    Hi in new here too. I’ve stated a 2 meals a day fast diet, it hasn’t been as hard as I thought it would. I went for an 8 hour walk yesterday to take my mind off eating, arrived home around 6:30pm to eat a small portioned meal. Today I had a slice of toast for my breakfast and a frozen Chicken Kiev for my tea. I don’t drink fizzy drinks, I drink plenty of water.

    Hi Marina,

    So have you picked your two days and actually started a fast yet? There is a saying, Tomorrow never comes. The best time to start something is now. So have you started yet your first fast yet?

    Hello bigbooty,
    at the moment I am still organizing it all. I am writing down various recipes for the fast days. I have also started to write down what I eat at the moment and for the first time in my life I am counting calories. Incredible what amount of calories I have abused my body with so far. I will start the actual fasting days next week as my husband is still on holiday and I have to cook differently to what I can do when he is back at work. As for the days, I guess I wll try and do Mondays and Thursdays aswell. I am so new to this and have to learn a lot yet. But I actually had no binge stuff last night, which is the first time in YEARS. I was so proud of myself this morning. My biggest problem is in the evenings and you won’t believe how many bags of winegums or packets of peanuts I can eat. There is never a feeling of ‘having enough’ or ‘feeling sick’. Sometimes my jaws ache from all the chewing but I still won’t stop. I think it’s an addiction. So I really hope that it will work this time.
    Thank you for your message. Have a lovely day.

    marina, can you just get rid of the winegums, which are totally empty calories? The nuts are at least nutritious!

    Hi K-Lo, I have no more winegums and nuts in the house anymore. Like I said, last night I had my first success by not bingeing. The other question I have, how do I count calories for foods I eat when I am in a restaurant? What I want to try is to see how many calories I take even on the days I do not fast and want to go for a Chinese or something similar with my husband and my children? But I have no idea how that works. Thank you all!

    Marina I agree with K-Lo, just don’t have the winegums in the house. Good luck for Monday, don’t forget to drink plenty of water. Sometimes when you feel hungry a big drink of water will fix that! Sometimes I get busy and forget to drink and get a bit light headed or ‘headachey’ – water fixes it immediately.

    Our posts crossed Marina. Well done on stopping the evening snacks, thats a big achievement.
    Eating out is tricky. I always have something simple like fish with salad. Chinese would be a challenge but if you can get chicken or seafood or at least avoid the rice, you will be ok. Thai or Vietnamese tends to be less greasy, better choices of soups etc. Sometimes it is impossible to know exact calories. But if you have mainly vegetables/salads plus fish when out you cant go wrong. It will get easier as you get more practise.

    First thing I do when I’m at a restaurant is to stick to the starters/appetizers. I do NOT order a larger main course. One, fewer calories to tempt me. Two, I find I have a smaller appetite. I just CANNOT eat as much as I used to.

    I worry less about calories than nutrition. I look for proteins and vegetables … no rice, no potatoes and (except for last night!), no pasta.

    When you go out for Chinese, order fish and steamed veggies.

    Sorry but what’s a winegum? Is it some sort of soft candy? Like others have said avoid rice, bread and potatoes. Choose fish and steamed vegetables.

    Remember to drink lots of water.

    Bigbooty, winegum = gummy bears. I had to look it up.

    I thank you all for your msgs.I really am glad to have joined the forum. Second day: today my daughter came and usually we have biscuits together, today I refused. It was hard but I made it. And the drink of water, that you all mentioned definately helped me. Later my son-in-law came and his metabolism is incredible, he can eat absolutely anything and will not put on an ounce of weight. He had to cheese-bretzels and two biscuits and I found myself graving for some of them but again, I gulped down two glasses of water and luckily didn’t ‘fall of the wagon’ so to speak.
    The weekend will be hard as usually my husband and I share a bottle or wine but I must be strong. Thanks again to you all and have a wonderful weekend.

    Marina, well done so far! Your willpower muscle will get stronger with practice!
    One thing though, the reason 5:2 works so well for lots of us is that we don’t feel like we are deprived EVERY day. So still allow yourself a few things you like, eg have one glass of wine with your husband on the weekend. If you are relying on willpower every day, research shows that usually lasts about 6 weeks until it all gets too hard. Try to be sensible on non fast days, no binges if you can, but still enjoy them. Well done on avoiding the biscuits, twice! We find it is much harder to stop at just one if it is a carb loaden treat we have always loved!

    Way to go Marina!! Yeee Harrrr. Good stuff. You really need to make the effort to avoid those simple sugary treats. Just empty calories that raise your blood glucose levels and that means everything you eat goes to fat storage. Alcohol is empty calories as well. Alcohol must be processed by the liver and stored as fat. Try and limit your intake to one or two glasses per week. Make that your special treat on the weekend, not an every day thing.

    The longer you do 5:2 the easier it will become and your taste buds will change with time and you wont be looking for sweet things all the time.

    Cheers to you Marina! What a great start!
    I also agree with Nama. 5:2 works if you can make it a sustainable part of life. I love to plan a treat and enjoy every minute of it while I am eating (or drinking) it, and then get back to healthy eating for another week (or whatever), until it is treat time again!

    Hi AmyLou

    If ok I’d like to join you! I like how you’ve written your intentions and I need someone to work with on this. I know the 5:2 works as my friend did it so well – 9 weeks = 18lbs and feels amazing.

    I’m a size 14/16 and want to be a straight 12. Like you i used to have a stresful job in local govt which i think made my eating worse – always eating at my desk, no exercise, long hours etc. But I left a while ago and don’t really have that excuse now, just need to break the habits!

    also, I’m going away at the end of Sept and would like to have lost 14lbs by then, which will bring me down to 9st 7lbs – which would feel like a miracle!!

    So these are my intentions:

    I will start fasting next week – Monday and Friday for me
    I will weigh myself every day and record it (i think that will work best for me)
    I will walk 20 minutes every day
    I will lose 2 lbs a week.

    Fingers crossed for us all!!

    Good luck – Jan x

    Welcome JanRose21! It is exciting to be involved in this WOE. I am starting tomorrow. I had done JUDDD in the past and it worked but 3 days a week left me with some serious diet fatigue (which was the culmination of 30+ years of trying different diets). I have done a reset and tried to change my relationship with food, no dieting for about about six months. I have definitely seen a good change in how relaxed I am around food. I wish I had learned this when I was 20.

    From past experience, I recommend not weighing every day. It can be very discouraging even when you are doing everything perfectly. There will be fluctuations to be sure. If you go up a day, will you “punish” yourself? We need to be patient and kind to ourselves is what I have learned. And more importantly over weigh ins, take and track all of your measurements. Some weeks will see no change in weight but you will see inches lost. That helps my motivation. Best to you!

    marina59: Reread nama’s post and follow! She is right on about not depriving yourself. Enjoy enjoy your time with your husband and the traditions you have with him. After doing this WOE for a while, your mindset will start to change voluntarily, you will make dietary changes in your life that make you feel better inside and for your energy level and to meet your goals. Be kind and patient with yourself and the process.

    Hello cactusrose, what does WOE mean?

    WOE = way of eating. (rather than saying the “D” word: diet!!)

    cactusrose: oh I see, makes sense because that is the aim of the book, that we change our WOE. I can use it now that I know what it means :-).
    Tomorrow will be the proper start of it all. This week I started to count calories as practice but I haven’t started to leave everything out yet. Mind you, I have not binged at nighttimes apart from last night I allowed myself some chocolate. To give up my sweet things will be the most difficult for me as I have done this for many years. So, I have to see how I manage tomorrow. I am nervous, I must admit.

    marina59,

    But that’s the whole point, you don’t have to give up sweet things. Honestly in the past I have had something sweet every non fasting day so I didn’t feel deprived at first. When we feel deprived, we of course want that very something really badly! Over time, as I started feeling better from losing weight and I liked the results I was getting, I would CHOOSE a day to not have sweets, to start to see how I felt, energy level, etc. I became motivated to eat better so I could see more weight loss and increased energy. I still did not deprive myself on my non fast days all of the time. My attitude toward food started changing, because I liked feeling healthier. I am sure it will for you as well.

    What we put in our bodies is our CHOICE, not a WOE we HAVE TO adhere to. WE are in charge of food, food is NOT in control of us!

    Congrats to you on not binging! But please don’t be so hard on yourself, we’ve done enough of that to ourselves haven’t we? This is not going to be a perfect road, it’s a learning process. Just focus on one day at a time. We’ve given you some ideas of what to eat on fasting days. Focus on those kinds of foods. Avoid the sweets and bread and pasta on fasting days to keep your blood sugar level, and that will make fasting more tolerable.

    This is my take on the situation: If you really feel you need a sweet on every non fasting day, just incorporate it into your daily calorie total (TDEE). Do this until you start to feel more at peace with food. That will happen!

    Hi Marina,
    I agree with everything cactusrose says. From my experience. I used to have a very ”sweet tooth'” but 5:2 has tamed it considerably. I still love sweet things but find most things ‘too sweet’ now and am very discerning. A moderately sized piece of home made cake is more than enough, once or twice a week. Previously I would crave sweetness, especially in the evenings after dinner and only the fact that this WOE allowed for it made it possible for me to start losing weight without feeling miserable. Initially I was still attracted to the sweet stuff (thought I always would be), but honestly over a period of months it lost its allure. Obviously, by having less, the taste buds slowly changed and became more sensitive to sugar – things I previously would gobble thoughtlessly became intolerably sweet. But it took months, so be patient. We are breaking life long habits remember. At first, as your weight comes off, you will be so happy that you will avoid carbs (sugars & starches) just to minimise calories, but eventually you just wont crave them as much. I would never have believed this if I had not experienced it. But don’t expect it for several months. This is a WOE for good health for the rest of our lives. Remember when you first learnt something, eg driving a car? That certainly took many months to become easy! This is no different. Good luck with your first week, you can do this, great decision!

    Eating sweet things like chocolate releases dopamine. Dopamine makes you feel good. Eat chocolate = feel good. Trouble is that all that chocolate raises your blood glucose levels which prevents you from burning fat. Exercise also has the same effect. Go for a gentle walk for one hour, it will release dopamine. Plus the exercise has other benefits.

    Ever noticed what top athletes do when they have won a race. They immediately raise their arms above their head in a big V formation. Why? It releases dopamine and makes the sensation of winning all the more pleasurable. So get in front of the mirror and raise your arms and shout out loud, “today is my fast day and I will be successful”. Sounds stupid, try it, it works. Every time you feel like youre going to reach for that chocolate bar get back to the mirror and repeat that victory shout.

    Hi Bigbooty.
    Just curious, how does the dopamine get released with the Victory salute? I always thought this was just a show of pride, an innate behaviour that all types of athletes use… I also understand that self talk in a mirror can be effective, just not sure of the connection of the physical stance and the release of a neurotransmitter… I enjoy your posts, you always get straight to the point and make sense, just wondering if this is research you have found?

    big booty I like your victory shout idea!

    Sounds stupid but it works. I was listening to someone on the radio describing this phenomenon. Apparently it is innate in all of us and is not learnt from others. The person was saying that even blind people will do this posture when they have achieved/won something. Something they couldn’t have seen others do. I also recently had a person that coaches people in public speaking do a workshop for some students. And guess what she told the students to do the same thing.

    Do it and see for yourself. Get in front of a mirror raise your hands in a big V, and shout out loud. YEEESSS I can do this. If you don’t immediately have a sense of euphoria flood your whole body I would suspect that youre actually dead. You don’t need chocolate and sugar to get a dopamine hit!! You can get it without consuming a single calorie. Exercise also releases dopamine and it doesn’t have to be strenuous exercise. A nice upbeat walk will produce the desired effect.

    Good morning everybody. I am so glad – I know I’v said it before – that I found this group. Thank you all for all the good advice.
    Just a short story from this morning: I look after my daughters little dog maltese) every day while she is at work. She lives in the same village and normally she brings him to me on her way to work. The reason for this is that I am in constant pain because of my handcap Well, this morning I deceided to walk to her flat, pick Tommy up and not walk back what is for my daughter, the usual way. That would have taken only about 8 minutes smily This round took about 20 minutes. And yes, bigbooty, the victory thing works, smiley. I know I’ll have to take small steps and won’t be able to run a marathon ever, but I was happy this morning that I made it. And I like the sentence ‘we control food, food doesn’t control us’. I definately have to look at things in a different way. Tommy will be happy to get out more than usual, aswell, smiley. I wish you all a lovely week. Please keep in touch! Shame I can’t put smilies on here.

    Well done Marina! Great to hear you so motivated. This forum has been a great support for me, as well as an endless source of information and fasting experience. Lucky Tommy! I do some ‘doggy day care’ now too as my son and his fiance recently got a puppy, then realised too late that they felt really bad leaving him alone all day whilst they work. I only mind Jack one day a week as he is a handful, he has not quite learnt to walk on a lead yet, he is only about 4 months old. But I love dogs and my old one died 3 years ago and we have not gotten another as we are enjoying the freedom of retirement. So I get a lot of pleasure from Jack and he gets a lot of pleasure from my big yard and all the attention! It will be wonderful for you to start walking Tommy a bit more, good for you both!
    Re exercise, I generally hate it but I do love swimming. After I had been fasting a few months some forum members encouraged me to get more active and I firmly resisted, knowing if I started something I did not enjoy, it would not last and I would feel angry with myself. Then I remembered that I did love the water, so eventually took myself off to a public pool to see if I could still manage to swim some laps. After a few sessions, I realised that this was something I could do and would enjoy, so I bought a gym membership at a private gym with a lovely heated pool. Initially I could swim about 6 laps without feeling I would collapse, now I swim b/w 30 and 40 two or three times a week. It is great aerobically and my joints dont get any stress, plus if I am getting sweaty I don’t know about it!
    Let us know how your first fast went, keep up the great work!

    Good morning everybody, just to let you know I’VE DONE IT!!! It feels wonderful especially as I really struggled last night. I so wanted to eat but I really resisted. Thank you for all your support. I am now off for a walk with the dog. A wonderful day to all of you.

    Wooohooo Marina. Big victory V and walking the dog!! Way to go.

    Well done Marina, you are on the way! Some fasts are easier than others, but the first few can be the hardest. Keep out of the kitchen and keep busy and you are half way there!

    Great job Marina! I had my first fast day on Sunday, second one today, and today is harder. We just keep keeping on! Weigh in and measurements tomorrow.

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