What it says to me, is that you’ve made a very sweeping statement. Size doesn’t come into it. As a very overweight or ‘fat’ person, I’m much more likely to advise that someone do what they really feel comfortable with. There are many overweight people looking for support on the forum by sharing their highs, lows, experiences etc., hoping that by following the 5:2 and altering their approach to food they will not only lose weight but will reap all the benefits that this way of life has to offer. I’m sorry that your experience has been at negative comments of ‘fat’ colleagues but for me, it has been entirely the opposite.

I’ve heard it’s best to weigh yourself first thing in the morning as your weight can fluctuate throughout the day apparently. I weigh myself in the morning once a fortnight, as think I’d get depressed and go off the diet if I did it too often with no loss showing – sometimes it can take a while to show. I’ve not told too many people, even friends that I’m on the plan, as some people get jealous if you lose weight, especially if they need to, but can’t be bothered themselves! I usually say it’s for health reasons now, which it is, but like the idea of fitting into smaller sized clothes!

Intermitting fasting, in particular 5:2 is being touted as a new weight loss diet by many, when in fact the concept of fasting isn’t new at all. The initial theory behind it, is that high levels of IGF-1 the growth hormone, is linked to cancer, diabetes and alzheimer’s amongst other things. As fasting lowers IGF-1 it apparently slows new cell growth, prompting the body to into repair, another benefit of which is burning fat, hence losing weight.

The whole point of this ‘diet’ is to hopefully benefit from everything but to use the word ‘diet’ is misleading. It is not a diet per se. It is a way of life that we have chosen to adopt and to suggest as many do, that it is simply a great way to lose weight, is in my view wrong.

Avocado, you made a sweeping statement about ‘fat’ people. Your comment actually starts with a disparaging remark about ‘fat’ people and could actually be seen as discriminatory. It seems you are suggesting that those who are overweight haven’t got a clue, whilst thin people have! You also later state that fat people see intermittent fasting as dangerous, unhealthy, unachievable. You are irrevocably wrong to discriminate in this way, regardless of the fact that you are a little overweight yourself. It surprises me that as a healthcare professional, you have chosen to single out a specific group of people with your sweeping statements when in fact, those that suggest fasting is not good for you come in all shapes and sizes. And as I’m sure you are aware, there are still many doctors and dieticians who are sceptical.

I actually found both your posts touching on offensive, simply because I am a very overweight person who actually knows more about healthy eating than some of my slim counterparts. There are many reasons as to why people gain weight, and often it is much more than gluttony.

Those of us that have commented have done so because we perceived your posts as a tad offensive, although I’m sure you actually didn’t quite mean it that way.

chilliexx & ljc1011 a sad but very true point, we can choose how we let this affect us, we can take the comments to heart and let it get us down, or we can dig our heels in and PROVE them wrong, keep going, you know they will be soon be having egg on their faces xxx

Chilliexx, I think your mother in law was being really mean and rude in her comments to you! What is it about someone’s successful weight loss that seems to offend others?

It is interesting how emotive discussion of diets and weight loss can become. I know we’ve probably all put up with the “diet bores” who seem to be permanently trying some new wonder diet – and truthfully I have probably been a diet bore myself at times. But when someone is clearly following a sensible eating plan as opposed to a quick fix and it is WORKING – it is really mean spirited not to be happy for that person.

A very good friend of mine is extremely critical of me when I gain weight, to the point of making me feel bad. I don’t see her often, as we live far away from each other, and I otherwise love her company, but there are times I have chosen not to see her on some other pretext or other when I am feeling fat as I can’t take the disapproval. Yet when I have lost significant amounts of weight she seems jealous and weird about it and lectures me about cutting carbs being the only real way to lose (not something I would ever do – previous losses have been simply eat less and move more).

If anything though as fast for life says, your exchange with your moher in law may have a positive side and strengthen your resolve to stick to this and prove beyond all doubt that you can make this work and lose the weight you need to.

Good luck 🙂

It occurred to me that we are all fat.

Some have more good fat than bad fat. The fact is that we can’t live without fat.

Like bad fat trying to pull us down from succeeding, there are some people that also pull us down from success.

I recognize that.

I hope that I have always encourage others to succeed. At the same time, others are encouraged by being challenged.

A fine line, judged by the results.

Consider being pleasant, ignore bad behavior and do what you intended on doing.

I’m memorizing this for when it happens to me.

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I had someone say to me at work. Oh but you wont stick to it. She was the lady who didn’t want her hubby to do it. I wonder if its an insecurity in themselves. Anyway their loss!! Feeling the fat disappear from my waist line is fantastic.

wow avocado it is so sad ur behavior hate 2 think
how people around u feel

this is a nice forum where

we have respectful people here

stop shouting & bullying

u need help

this is not a forum 2 have as an outlet 2 ur anger

u will not be answered 2 u r not worth the energy especially if it’s negative

u will be reported if u continue

I think avocado just passed on her observations. Best not to read too much into people’s comments on Internet forums in my humble opinion.

I understand where Avocado is coming from and I understand the knee jerk reactions of some responders. I’m sure Avocado did not mean to disparrage anyone in the initial post but I would possit that it is probably the ‘tubby’ colleagues’ ignorance of the science behind this lifestyle that made them react in a negative way to what you were telling them.

So many of us have been told for so long that ‘little & often’ is the way to go with a healthy lifestyle and I’m sure they’re used to hearing that they eat too much and don’t exercise enough. It can be so frustrating to absolutely KNOW beyond doubt that you can eat as healthily as you like and exercise yourself into a rut in the ground and STILL not shift any significant weight. This is reality for a lot of overweight people. Not all, of course, some really could lose it with a diet that they stick to and some could shift it with exercise if they really tried. But as someone who had tried both of those routes and had absolutely no success, I can promise you that I am not the only one who gave up on being slimmer many many years ago and just settled myself into the ‘reality’ that my natural size was 16 and as I was healthy & fit at that level I should just build a bridge & get over it.

Please don’t write off any larger people you come across. Show them this forum. Show them some of the ‘larger ladies’ amongst us who have had success on this diet. Let US help them. If you are starting out at just a little overweight, then they are likely to write this off as some faddy diet where you’re having temporary success. If they don’t get all the science behind it or see the longterm success that some of us REALLY overweight ladies have had then they have no frame of reference and they probably think they are helping you by trying to talk you out of following, what they have been conditioned to see as, an unhealthy diet.

Yes in the same way a racist person will not care who they offend with their opinions. It is their opinion of course, and it will offend some of course.

A better person would simply have apologised for any offense caused and explained what they really meant, and that they meant ‘some’ fat people, specifically those that they worked with. Not turned nasty on the people who found it offensive.

I don’t think this is going anywhere so I wont come back to it again. It’s just making an unpleasant discussion go on and on.

I’ve thought (maybe not always) that leading by example is better than promoting.

I’ve also found it takes longer and is sometimes disappointing.

Luckily, my wife is also with me; it’s easier as a couple for mutual support, I’m finding out.

With others, I’m keeping quiet, regardless of where they are at it in their fasting path.

Results are more important.

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I agree with Annie Somerset. This forum is helping me through the fast days especially, to carry on and put your best foot forward. You cannot tell the tone of the person either through a letter, text, a posting. I have in the past texted someone and they took it the wrong way. So I’m particularly careful with what I write down. You could be joking about something and it could end up like Chinese whispers, totally distorted!!

So please, I see this forum has a support group which in fact is helping me with my weight loss. This forum is a positive in this sometimes negatative world!!

So, carry on with a positive outlook…

Saner minds prevail.

I suspected the fast talking.

Is there more drama while fasting ?

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rockyromero

luv that

but please title it “Check your fasting at the door?”

i don’t want this subject 2 keep re-posting

it’s over

let’s stop the madness!!!!!!!!