Can it all be fluid?

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  • Hello. I started 5:2 on 26th April at 123.9kgs. I was desperate. I joined the forum and tracker on 29 th April and had dropped to 121.9. After a big binge I shot up by 1.4kgs. Will not allow negative emotions to propel me in that direction again. Since then I have had a steady decrease weighing in at 118.1kgs this morning. That’s all good. But my waist measurement has not changed a jot. Am I to gather from that that it is only fluid loss to date? This after 3 weeks. I’m really happy with 5:2 and find FDs easy, even though I have to prepare meals for my mother-in-law (92 with dementia). I know I’ve lost fluid as pitting oedema in my legs have decreased a lot. Any thoughts welcomed.

    Hi,

    So you’ve lost nearly 6 kgs since 26th April, that is excellent. Water is heavy, a pint weighs approx 0.5 kg so some of the loss will be from the improvement in your legs but you’ll have lost some fat too. In my experience there seems to be a time lag between losing weight and losing inches so don’t worry about it. Whatever you are doing is working well so keep going and might I suggest you don’t measure more often than once a month, and I bet that by the time you get the tape measure out agin you’ll have noticed a difference in the way your clothes fit.

    Thank you so much Amazon. I’m thrilled to be losing weight in a way that feels doable. And if the majority of it is fluid, so be it. It is better gone than carting it around all the time. But fat is my true target. I can’t believe I thought I was fat when I hovered around 70kgs in my 30s. Now that I can see it hanging off my body everywhere, I truly know what it is to be fat. I take heart from all the different threads I’ve been reading everyday. I’ve also started watching Jason Fung on YouTube. It all makes so much sense. Thanks for your support. I won’t measure till half way through June. FD today. I so love not having to pick and choose on these days. It’s a relief from the tyranny of food.

    Another fast day and another .8kgs gone. That’s 6.7 gone, a tenth of what I need to lose. If I can keep going at this rate, then in 18 weeks I would be under the hundred. Haven’t been there since 1998. Then after my mother passed away in 2003, I put on 20 kgs in 3 months and have had an uphill battle ever since. Looking at what Dr Fung says, stress increases insulin resistance leading to more insulin and putting on more weight. Go figure! Beautiful day on the Sunshine Coast. Had a lovely walk with a friend beside the Maroochydore River. All good.

    Fuvvie,

    congrats for doing such a good job πŸ™‚ I share Amazon’s perception, also from own experience: weighing and measuring is not all, especially not done too often.

    When I was in my losing period of 25 kg last year I lost fat all over, even at strange places that would not translate in “weight loss” or waist circumference. So your body is eating up fat cells.

    I have developed a daily 3-liter-of-water routine. On the scale my weight went up about three kilos. My new jeans still fit, though.

    And some more good news: I ate every day for a whole month. (Had to, no ADF possible, I still do fast days for personal and health reasons.) 30 days: breakfast, lunch and supper (even high carb intake), yes. I have not gained much weight, though. Which means no yo yo effect here πŸ˜€

    Wishing you the best and keep the (fat melting) fire burning πŸ™‚

    Mahalo

    Thank you Mahalo. I love your name. It sounds like a lovely halo that I’m sure is very shiny after your 25kg weight was shed. 25 kgs sounds like a dream to me right now, but a believable dream because the proof is echoed on so many feeds in this forum . I have to admit to being quite addicted to the scales. That’s after having ignored them for so long, knowing I was putting on weight but not game to see how much. Better keep moving. Have a hair appointment at 8:15 and its 7:09am. Looks like it’s another sunny day in paradise which isn’t doing my new tree much good. Thanks for your encouragement and will do my very best to keep the fat-fire burningπŸ˜‰πŸŽΆ

    Had an NFD yesterday and weighed in after breakfast at 117.0. Choir performed in a concert today. Was great. Feeling really good about life. FD tomorrow. Had a few glasses of alcohol tonight. Will be interested to see if the swelling returns to legs. Good luck to all those fasting tomorrow.

    Big night. Mother fell and fractured her femur. Got home from the hospital at 4:30am. Family started ringing at 6:30. So up and about already and facing up to an FD. 116.1kgs today. Not sure if Mother will have her surgery today or tomorrow. This will put emotional eating to the test.

    Sorry to read about your Mom’s misery.
    Best wishes for her surgery.
    Hope she is getting well soon!

    Take care of yourself, too. Stressed-out times are demanding in all aspects, you have my empathy.

    M

    Thank you Mahalo. Her surgery was on Thursday. My mother-in-law has dementia so it’s hard for her to follow through with what the therapists want her to do. But she’s making small gains so fingers crossed. We’re all behind her.
    One way and another, I’ve had a very social weekend but have tried to keep a lid on overeating. I’ll be happy tomorrow when I weigh in to have at least maintained my weight. Had a successful FD today, so here’s hoping.

    Down to 114.8kgs. Slower release of weight this past week, but still carrying less around.
    Mother moved into the rehabilitation unit yesterday so hopefully she’ll start to see marked improvement with 2 physic sessions per day. It’s a lot to ask of a 92 year old but better than just giving up and going off to a nursing home.

    114.4kgs this morning. Got stuck into vacuuming this morning as incidental exercise. Washing track suits for Mother and off to visit her soon. Hope she has had a better day. I love the sentence in The Obesity Code “But the time frame matters a lot. We may try to downplay its effects, but the idea that long-standing obesity is much more difficult to treat has the stench of truth”. Insulin resistance seems to be the culprit and I’m hoping that by continuing to avoid refined carbs and increasing the fat and vinegar will increase the insulin sensitivity. It’s a bit like the holy grail!
    Listened to some interesting MP4 tracks on making choices and setting boundaries and about guilt. It all creates road bumps and ups the cortisol and hence further insulin resistance and further obesity. We are surely a sum of our parts and I feel for the first time I’m really getting a handle on this. Love the wisdom of people like Buttonboots, Lolly, Austrian, Coldpizza and so many other threads that are inspiring me. πŸ’πŸŒΈπŸŒ»πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸŒπŸŒŽπŸŒ

    113.6kgs this morning but have had a big eating day today. Another fast day tomorrow. We’re sitting in candle light right now due to a power blackout. Hope it doesn’t last too long as we no longer have gravity feed to the house. We rely solely now on a pump for water to the house. We are not on town water but our tanks are full after the rain yesterday. Our dam is overflowing.

    Had a follow-on FD till I came home to my son-in-law having cooked rice and chicken cacciatore. So first big feed of refined carbs in weeks. 2 boiled eggs for breakfast. Going in to the hospital to see OH who successfully underwent surgery yesterday. Interesting to see that all the food on his menu marked heart safe are low fat and high carb. When are they going to cotton on that low fat high refined carbs are not heart healthy?

    Hello 5:2ers. Weight went up to 114.4kgs this week but down to 113.3 this morning. That is .3 down on my previous lowest reading. I welcome my fast days and will get in some meditation today as well as going down to the exercise machines in the shed. Loads of washing to do after our sojourn in Brisbane so better get to it. Best of wishes to all members of 5:2.

    Still addicted to daily weighing. 2 FDs ago, went down to 111.9. NFD took it to 112.7. FD 112.0. NFD 113.0 as I overdid it with bowl of nuts last night. FD today and will stick with fluids for 36 hours. Doing some guided meditation last night but legs got the fidgets. The psychologist is encouraging me to start yoga to manage cortisol. Trying to get on top of all of this before MIL comes home as managing her care needs is going to be a lot more taxing than before. It will probably be 2-3 weeks before we have to manage that though. I notice their are lots of careers on this forum all coping with deme ting parents and the highs and lows that come with that. Wishing you all the best. FuvvieπŸ€—πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΈπŸŒΉ

    Good luck with that, Fuvvie. Yes it’s very stressful caring for a parent and trying not to feel guilty if one feels frustrated and exhausted by it. The yoga is a good idea as it’s time out for your head as well as exercise. Keep going, maybe reduce the carbs a bit, and I’m sure you’ll get there.

    Hi Apricot,
    Thanks for your input. Carbs have been a big issue in the past, but since starting 5:2, I’ve practically cut them out of my life. Nuts are my big downfall. I tell myself they are high fat and high fibre, and have 2-3 handfullsπŸ‘Ώ I also have been getting very little exercise. I weighed in at 112.6 yesterday after aborting 2 fast days. But I didn’t eat till lunch time both days and yesterday I went out to lunch with my husband. This was a real treat. I ordered grilled fish with salad and forgot to ask them to hold the chips. Fortunately, it was a small serve and I had a delightful glass of chilled Sav Blanc. How I enjoyed that. I have pretty much given up wine since 26th April. Dinner last night was dry baked chicken thigh fillet plus salad. This morning the scales are 112.2kgs. I’m a very happy camper and today is an FD which is non negotiable. No cake or biscuits have passed my lips since starting 5:2. I am hopeful of ditching this excess baggage for the first time since the late 80s.
    I was sitting beside a very slight woman the other day. She weighs 48kgs. I pointed out to her that the normal weight person inside me who is fighting to get out, is carrying her around on my body every day. It’s very confronting to look at another person and realise they are the embodiment of the weight you are fighting to shed. It’s a battle, but 5:2 makes it seem possible. Better stop gabbling. Nice talking to you.

    Struggling not to overeat on my NFDs. Eating far too many nuts. weight this morning was 111.7kgs, my lowest yet, but only 200gms over the past week. Still, better off than on. FD tomorrow. Will try to make it fluids only.

    Amazon,
    I’m directing this to you as you were very encouraging back on the 18th May and I took on board your advice to delay measurements. Whilst I couldn’t hang out till June, I have done my mid June measurement and report I have lost7.3cm off waist, 7cm off bust, 16.2cm off hips and2.3 cm off neck. Team that with weight today of 110.9kgs and that’s 13kgs gone west, never to be seen again. It’s people like yourself, Austrian, Coldpizza, Lolly and all the other threads that I read but don’t contribute to that encourage one to stay the distance. Next major goal 99.9kgs. Next mini goal 109.πŸ’ƒπŸŒŸπŸ™‹πŸ»

    I should have mentioned Apricot as well, as her comments are always very supportive too.

    Hello Fuvvie,

    I’m with you on this journey towards the dreamed weight – Below 100kg, I am now with 105.5kg, it is rather slow, but I am determined to continue, I know that my metabolism is spoiled because of so many diets and weight-loss drugs.

    Now I have to have patience and determination.

    I also have a pet peeve with the scales, I can not stay without seeing the weight every day, even already hid it from myself, hehehehhehe

    Success for you and all of us.

    Hugs from Brazil,

    Hi Anaide, It blows me away that we live poles apart and yet travel the same journey. When I turned 60, I was 1.5kgs off 100 and hoped to crack that barrier. I can’t remember which particular diet I was on at the time, but I gave it up and self sabotaged as per every other diet. This time just feels so much more achievable. And being accountable to my fellow 5:2ers is helping a lot. How are you feeling about the up and coming olympics? Will it cause you much disruption. A time of huge celebrations I imagine. Patience and determination are certainly the keys to our winning each of our battles. Look forward to hearing how you are getting on. All the best, Fuvvie πŸ‘πŸ€—

    Hello Fuvvie, thank you for answering my post.

    I’ve only been below 100kg 22 years ago in 1994 when my son died aged 15, from there only gained weight, tried to compensate for the sadness with food and put on weight 30 kg.

    As for sabotage were years of yo yo effect, breaking with my metabolism.

    But now I’m focused on weight loss, two years ago I decided to meet a request of my daughter, she went to Sweden Masters and before traveling asked me to take better care of my health.

    20 kg less and the withdrawal of sugar and flour have a magnificent health and feel beautiful, but I know I can improve even more.

    Here it rains and it’s cold there many days, I live just south of the country, in the most “European” of Brazil.

    I think the Olympics will be very beautiful and it will be all right, outside of Rio de Janeiro where everything is party, our reality is to work, work and work.

    Lowcarb down a power link that I found interesting.

    A big, warm hug. fasts good for us!

    http://www.lowcarblab.com/best-low-carb-fast-food/

    Hello Anaide, I cannot even begin to imagine the pain of losing a child. My heart goes out to you and your family. It was an act of courage to meet your daughter’s request. This way of eating seems to be the best I have found to date. It’s the mind games that are the hardest to overcome. I really like that link you put up. I love cauliflower so will try some of those recipes. And the chicken tenderloins look great.

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