What am I doing wrong?

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  • Second time around for me and I am not having much luck. 4 weeks in and have onlt lost about 2lbs despite 8 fast days. I stick to 500 cals, exercise a lot, my tdee is about 2200 but I dont eat that- I am female, 43, 5ft8 and 11 stone 11 and want to lose a stone which is what I did last time around. I drink lots of water etc so why isnt it working? I seem to have real problems losing weight!

    Hi Welsh and welcome:

    As you are losing weight, 5:2 is working!

    If you want to lose weight faster, you will have to eat less than you are currently eating. It really is that simple. There are various ways you can eat less, like going to 4:3 or water fasting on your diet days or eating fewer processed carbs or any way else you want. You get to choose!

    Here are some tips: https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/the-basics-for-newbies-your-questions-answered/

    Good Luck!

    What are you eating? Not all calories are processed the same. Try reducing your carb intake for more fats and protein. Cut out simple carbs like pasta, rice, bread, potatoes etc. Cut out sugars. Eat a lot more bulky green veggies.

    I have been trying to follow some of the principles of the blood sugar diet too – so better carbs, more med diet- but its not working! Its starting to drive me a bit mad now, especially when I read the weight loss on this site and wonder if I am an exception!! Should I water fast for one of the fast days to see if that helps?

    Welshinexile, How about posting a typical Fast day and NF day’s menu?

    Ok- so typical fast day would be something like a calorie controlled salad for lunch- I am a vegetarian- (coop do a superfood one for 280 cals) & then stir fry veg at about 200 cals for tea with a couple cups tea & lots of water.

    NFD- I make a homemade bircher muesli with cherries, 25g oats, apple, 100g greek yoghurt, sunflower seeds for brekkie

    Lunch- something like mixed bean salad or soup/ rye crackers/ houmous

    Tea- omlette or roasted veg with halloumi or veg chilli- or refried beans – veggie food.

    I do pick a bit at food- snack etc so that might be part of the problem. I do a lot of exercise- 3-5 times a week- running & workout dvds like davina hiit training etc

    Maybe its the snacking?

    Welshinexile, your carb load is pretty high. Breakfast alone would be me over my daily (soft) limit. You might try playing around with breakfast for starters. Eggs, cheese, avocados, chickpea flour pancakes.

    And cut out the snacks for a while. One of the lessons of 5:2 and Fung’s Obesity Cure is that we are always eating…and this does not help us in any way.

    Read the label on the yogurt. How much sugar content? More than 5% sugar find another brand of yogurt. Don’t add oats or any other grain. Add any type of berry fruit rather than cherries. Are the cherries dried fruit? NO DRY fruit. One or two strawberries. Try almonds or pumpkin seeds instead of sunflower seeds.

    Any grain is a no go zone (if you want to accelerate weight loss)!!

    Snacks are usually grain products like crackers of biscuits. What are you snacking on? If you are constantly snacking then your insulin will always be high, which means youre storing food as fat. Try adding more fat to your diet. Cheese, avocado. It will satiate you more and help you stop snacking.

    I use natural full fat yoghurt so no sugar and frozen cherries. Will add almonds instead and go without oats/ grains.

    Snacks are often the finn crisp rye crackers & houmous so will swap the crackers for carrots/celery sticks if I do need to snack. I do lots of exercise so feel like I need a few things to keep my energy levels up when running etc.

    Feel like I do eat good fats- but that grains are possibly an issue

    This is going to sound strange, but I always find my weight loss tends to lesson or stall with increased exercise. No idea why. I have been on a few diets over the years, they seem to go pretty well, I start upping my exercise and bam. Weight loss stalls or lessons. Then I start eating less, because surely it can’t be the exercise and still it stalls or I even gain. I know it doesn’t make any sense, but just thought I would share because this time around I haven’t done it and I have lost 15kg and counting!

    ETJ, not strange at all. Exercise is good for our bodies for so many reasons, but weight loss is not one of them.

    K-Lo – Thanks for responding. Can you explain why? I believe it wholeheartedly, but can’t think of why. It makes sense to exercise – you burn calories while exercising, you would assume that if you are eating less and exercising more that you would lose more, but it doesn’t work that way. I just don’t know why?

    ETJ – from what I can gather I think there are 2 reasons.

    Firstly a lb or kg of one thing is the same weight as anything else. However, they may not be the same density. A kg of lead would fit in your hand while a kg of cotton wool would probably fill a pillow case. It takes up less volume. This is why measurements are as (if not more) important as weight. Jessica Ennis (Olympic Pentathlete gold medallist) is morbidly obese according to BMI, with barely an ounce of fat on her. It is all muscle, which requires less space. Ultimately there is only one number that matters: That the measurement around your belly button is the same as, or less than, half your height. Don’t ignore the scales, but they are not the sole indicator of success.

    Secondly, when you exercise you create tiny tears in muscles which are a natural part of the process. Water is needed to repair these tears. Water is heavy, try lifting a bucket of it. So, if you have started exercising or increased your levels, there will be extra weight there. Once your body adjusts to this regime, then the weight will start to fall. In the meantime you are converting fat into denser muscle fibres and gaining a better shape, even if the weight is constant.

    Always remember, 5:2 was started as a way of providing a longer and healthier life. Weight loss was an additional benefit that was discovered. Whenever you fast, rather than trying to process unwanted food, your body is repairing itself by getting rid of bad and dead cells. It is taking the time out to do maintenance.

    Scales are not the only indicator of the benefits to body and mind you are getting.

    Hope this makes some sense.

    That’s well explained, FastBenefits. The tears are why you shouldn’t do HIIT training every day.
    There was a YouTube video by Robert Lustig ( talking about sugar of course) which showed the biochemistry of the liver managing sugar input. The process was altered if exercise took place, an additional enzyme came into play. I don’t have the link, though I think I found it in this site, but searching on YouTube by his name would bring it up I expect. So exercise is important but less so for calories out. It also can bring down blood pressure.

    ETJ, if you have not yet read Jason Fung’s book or blog wherein he explains the fallacy of Calories in Calories out. The body adjusts

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