We don’t mind that the Eagles won, since it was their first. My sister is Philly isn’t gloating. Funny how some of you have a Philly connection, even from across the world.
I’m 95% all better after last week’s undiagnosed illness. ODH still under the weather.
One nice side effect of being ill is that I finally broke out of my plateau and dropped to the bottom of my Target Zone. Always a relief. Now I have to stay there…

Snow is falling as fast as it can and looking lovely. We’ll stay inside all snug and cosy. Might get 12″.

Fasting tomorrow.

I’m doing alternate day fasting this week Poll to get my satiation trigger working again. I’m also rethinking the foods I ate 5 years ago when I started this. 😊 Cutting out the carbs and increasing the veg.
Pity about Scotland 😑😑

Hi Diver
I’m a similar age to you, and despite leading an active life, my muscles are significantly weaker. I don’t want to do the gym thing…strikes me as an unnatural waste of time and money…a bit like paying someone to lose weight instead of eating less 😉…but it IS hard to incorporate whole body workouts in everyday life. Inevitably I injure myself when I do an irregular maintenance task. It was never a problem when I was younger. P

Hi Polly,

It’s been very cold here too this week, dropping to -6 one night – I actually stuck my fingers to the outside of a metal door that morning! Luckily we only had snow for 48 hours, pretty but inconvenient.

I’ve struggled to fast too, although I did skip an evening meal one night (OH didn’t let me know he was stuck in traffic and by 9.30 I’d lost the urge to eat!), and the resulting 24 hour fast (I only made it til lunch the next day!) seems to have done the job re-setting appetite and portion control.

I’ll be watching the rugby at home, so the urge for daytime drinking should hopefully be controllable! And anyway, I’ve not found anywhere locally that sells Brains 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Ooo…poor Eddie! I hear he’s having success. 😉
My appetite has definitely been reset with alternate day fasts…long may it last 😊 P

Fasting_me, & PVE I’m from Henderson, right outside Las Vegas. We have had a warmer than usual winter. The daytime temps have been in the 60’s and the last two weeks we hit the low 70’s. Night time in the high 40’s. Of course it’s sunny just about every day, one of the big reasons I moved here.

At 67 I know my potential for maximum performance is not close to what it was in my 20’s & 30’s but I know I’m nowhere near what my limits are now. I’m concentrating on mobility, cardiovascular health and retaining muscle mass. I’m not a big gym guy but I usually discipline myself to go to use the spin bike and weights. My health insurance pays for the gym membership. The gymnastic strength training I’m starting can mostly be done at home with little or no equipment. So far it has been very humbling.

Pollypenny, the jambalaya sounds delicious! I love creole cooking and I haven’t had it in a long time.

F_me,

I think you’ve misunderstood my post, I’m struggling to fast in the cold (I’m in north west England, mid winter) but I’m not struggling to maintain. Currently 2lbs under ‘alarm bells’ weight 😀 Mind you, it’s not always this easy!

I joined you on that Carol. Remember? Recorded every day and definitely became more vigilant on quantity and frequency of eating. Then I changed phones and lost all that data!!!! I don’t crave sugar, but am aware of increased hunger when I’ve eaten too many carbs and when I’m very tired. ADF quickly brings the appetite back to normal and rethinking what foods I ate originally really helps. I had a DELICIOUS stuffed mushroom the other night. Haven’t had them in ages. 🤗
These days, with our cool,not freezing, winters, I find winter not too bad for maintaining weight. This summer socialising season is more a problem for me. With our beautiful weather, their are too many long outdoor eating and drinking sessions. I’ll have to become a hermit 😉😉😉
Happy maintaining folks…whenever you are. P

Good job, Happy. Glad to get that straightened out.
Happy’s comment raises a question from me to all of you: how big a range is your wiggle room? By that I mean, between the weight you don’t want to fall below and the weight you don’t want to go above, how many pounds are there? When I think about my range, it is shockingly small. From my Target Weight, to the lowest I want to be = 1.5 pounds. I don’t get too upset if I am 1/2 pound above my Target [which used to be my old target], but not over.

Polly, how unpleasant! Hope the up-chuck was a one-off. Guess you won’t go to that restaurant again! Unless you want to lose some more weight.
Diver, sounds as if you are living the healthy life in Henderson. More power to you!
PVE, I’ve never done ADF, since my ODH would rebel. Although I do work Fast Dinners [<300 calories] into the Slow Day manu as often as I can. Last night it was crab cakes and they were delicious. Now I need to subdue the wish to nibble all day.

Happy rugby.

Well I like to be around 59 kg, roughly 130 lbs. If I see 60 (132), I need to get strict, if I see 58 (127) something then I relax. So my range is I suppose 4 – 5 lbs. At 5 foot 7 it really makes no difference to how my clothes fit, but it’s good to have limits!

Polly, sorry to hear you’ve been poisoned! I always tend to think of meat as the culprit, but OH was hospitalised by rice and I’ve been ill after a falafel and cheese burger. Did you have to pay for your meal?

F_me, I’ve realised too that it’s fairly easy to eat light on non-fast days, I guess it’s called making healthy food choices!

Wiggle room? I’m not to concerned with daily weight changes as I can see as much as a 3 lb swing based on hydration, how much I’ve eaten and when I’ve visited the commode. I look for trends in weight and BF%

Right now I’d be pleased to see a weight increase and BF% decrease as I’m trying to build muscle

Hello everyone

Just back from a month in Melbourne – went for Niece No 1 wedding – had a fab time and enjoyed catching up with family and friends – lots of good food and 🥂🍷

Left Melbourne at 32 degrees arrived in Manchester at minus 2 and by the time I arrived in Cumbria it was a snowy wonderland!!!!!!!!!!

Happy to report that I returned weighing exactly what I weighed when I left despite only managing 2 FDs during the month but I did 16:8 days everyday and had several controlled days and several feast days so what is there not to love about this WOL – I’m in my 14th month of maintenance now and so happy to have discovered this WOL 😇

Talking about wriggle room @fasting_me I allow myself around 2kg, I know that sounds a lot but I set my target weight at 55kg and since reaching it I seem to sit happily around 52.5kg to 54.5kg without too much effort – I follow a 16:8 eating pattern every day and do 2 x FDs when home and try to do 1 a week if away from home – this allows me to enjoy some 🥂🍷 and morning tea out with OH a couple of times a week ☺️

@pollypenny – totally agree that it was a bit rich to split that bill 3 ways 🤨

@happynow – the Ireland/Italy game was a bit boring but the 2nd half Ireland played loosely allowing those 3 Italian tries – bet they got a bit a of telling off by the coach at the end! I’m hoping for a tighter match between England and Wales……

Going back to Australia in April for Niece No 2 wedding – so starting to plan next trip already – must be mad!!!

Diverdog, I think we all know that effect of water retention and transit issues. Thankfully, we in this thread don’t want to lose anymore weight. It’s the maintenance thread! 😉

Talking of losing, we did lose to England today. Leigh Halfpenny would have kicked those penalties I’m sure. Still, it’s only a game.

Welcome home, AT. Very well done on maintaining your weight in such a festive situation, especially over a period. And you’ll be gallivanting off again very soon, then.

CalifDreamer, my tummy is still flabby, in spite of losing 10 inches from my waist. I suppose Pilates is the answer, but at my age and post-hysterectomy I’ll live with it. Bikini days behind me.

Pol.

ccco USA Day 10 FD: I am not in maintenance yet but I read this forum to see what people do to maintain their weight. One question I wonder about is how often do you all do fast days to maintain your weight. It may be different for different for different people, but I am trying to get a general idea! Thanks!

Hi, all.
Coco, we normally do 16:8 every day. However, having been stuck at top of wriggle room since Christmas, we did two FDs last week. Like Happy and PVE, I think I’ve just learned to manage weight and allow for things like celebrations. Chiefly, we both learned that we don’t need three meals a day.

Found a couple of good new recipes in a Vegan/veggie book which our daughter gave us. It’s not as well laid out as Mimi’s books, but some useful calories tables too. Kate Harrison is the writer.
No rugby celebration yesterday!

Pol.

Yep! Toast and marmite! The smell permeates the house! 😳

ccco USA FD DAy 1: I Pollypenny! Thanks for your response. After a month and a half, I finally figured out how this plan works for me! I think everyone’s body is different and I was becoming frustrated as I was back on my roller coaster of weight gains and losses again! I still didn’t intent to quit, though! I just needed to make may own way within this plan. I don’t have much weight to lose and that can make the effort make difficult and slow. And who likes slow?? Getting frustrated because I suddenly was gaining my weight back, I decided to switch things up and make this a 48 hour fast weekend on top of all my work last week, which resulted in nothing! Today, however, I am celebrating a 6 lb, weight loss! Tomorrow I will do a 16:8 controlled fast and then I think I am on a roll! Just received Dr. Mosley’s book The Fast Diet, so I know what I will be doing today! Since I think I found the pattern that works for me, now I am looking forward to the health benefits I hope to have, lower cholesterol, lower blood pressure, and anti inflammatory gains! Have a wonderful day!

So interesting to her how similar we all are in our maintenance and wiggle room ideas. Love it!

Diver, we love bison burgers too — so much better for us than ground beef. We have a couple of Fast meals involving bison. I too like to keep my BF% in the 15.4-16.0 range. Have you ever tried exercising on a Fast Day? Some people find it to be a good thing.

Ccco, enjoy reading the Fast Diet. Inspiring. Stay hydrated and doing what works — you will be maintaining with us in short order.

PVE, you mentioned height/weight charts. Haven’t read the Kate Harrison book, but I’ve always found those charts to be way too generalized. When I weighed what the chart said was ideal for me, that was when I went back to dieting! Perhaps K Harrison’s is better than that. Like Harrison, I do the calorie counts on all the items in my recipes, just so I’ll know what I’m getting. [i do fat, fiber, protein, carbs, and Calcium, too]

You know, Polly, it might not have been the restaurant: you might have caught Norovirus/stomach flu somewhere else and it expressed itself there. Did anyone else eat the tziziki? How did the rug cleaning go?

AT, good job managing food intake on your wedding journey. You must be the queen of frequent flyer miles! I once turned an airplane meal into a delicious Fast Dinner once I got home. Air Italia.

Happy, seems most of you are taller than I, hence my different weight target. Anyone else shrinking? I’m not shockingly shorter, but have lost an inch+ in the past 2 years. Working on keeping the bones strong.

Carolann, the fashion of thinness swings like a pendulum. In 1900, plump was good: said you were prosperous. In 1924, skinny was in. In 1950, ‘pleasingly plump’ meant that the privation of the Wars and Depression was behind us. In the 1960s, everyone wanted to be young and hip and slim like the Flower Children. In the 1980s/90s plump crept back in and eased up to obesity, where we are now. And most people don’t even notice!

Purple Vegie Eater! I just read your post with interest! When I was younger I weighed a lot less but was 3 inches taller! I lost the inches because of a spine problem I have. I find my doctor disturbing because she seems to think my ideal weight should be the same as when I was 5 ft 6 in. I disagree! I think I should weigh what is appropriate for a 5 ft. 3 inch woman because that is what I am now! I don’t think she gets it because she is a large boned woman (I am a very small boned person) and she is 6 feet tall! LOL Everyone looks small to her!! Stay strong!

Oh, that’s interesting that two of us have shrunk. I’m still 5’3”, as I’ve been since I was 12, stopped growing early.

Fasting, the carpet is almost as new. I know where to look, of course. If only it was a rug, but it’s a fitted carpet in big hall and living room. ( foyer and family room in the UsA, I suppose). I know carpets are not popular but they keep us warm.

We just ate once today. Mimi’s minestrone soup, with some bread, very filling and absolutely delicious! I just some fruit later as I wasn’t at all hungry. Just as well, my stomach upset made me crave comfort food yesterday, so I made custard! 😱

Just typed up my story for the group; it’s true about losing son’s front door key for the second time! They’ll think we’re old fools!

Pol. 😀

Yes: ACTUAL height and actual weight give us our current BMI. I think mine is current.
I was a very skinny child, so my parents and other relatives gave me full rein to eat and over-eat. So when I started gaining at puberty, had no idea how to control appetite. 56 years later, I mostly do know how to control it.
I think those weight charts go back to the ’50s, my childhood. People were ‘thin’ in the 50s, but Marilyn Monroe was actually over-weight by many standards.

Does anyone else suffer with the FD headache?

I thought they would improve over time but think mine are getting worse. Often the headache is the most challenging part of FD and I still have it the next morning but generally goes before lunch.

I drink so much water, herbal tea on FD I slosh when I walk!

Does anyone have a solution or know why this happens please?

Carolannfud, what are you eating on your NFD? If it’s biased towards a lot of carbs your body may be resistant to using fat for fuel on FD’s. Your brain wants glucose and it signals it’s unhappiness with a headache.

When I stopped eating higher GI carbs like grains and added more non starchy veggies and fats headache on water fast days went away.

Hi Carol:

Next to too little water, the second most likely cause of a headache is lack of salt, especially if you have been drinking too much water. The excess water not only unnecessarily taxes your kidneys, it leaches water soluble vitamins (like C & Bs) and minerals (like salt) from your body. The third most likely cause is caffeine withdrawal.

Mmm thats interesting…..too much or too little water…
Think I’ll try water with a bit of Vegemite next FD and see what happens.

Thanks for suggestions!