Hi Nama,

Re: your mandolin. It is becoming clear that the problem here is you and not the mandolin. So it would be harsh indeed to make the mandolin leave home. But you clearly need to work on your relationship before there is a total breakdown of trust or someone/ something gets seriously hurt. Interesting that now you have been encouraged to talk about it, it transpires that although initially the mandolin appeared to be the abuser, it is actually a victim of your abuse 🙂 (Hope your finger’s healing, obviously!)

Re: danger times for eating. For me, it’s more daytime than evening, and particularly mid afternoon when I’m working at home. When I’m in the office I’m fine, I take a packed lunch and stick to it. And at weekends I’m busy so it’s rarely a problem. But 2 – 3 pm when I’m sat at my computer… home alone… I’m not sure what it is, but it can be easier to get up frequently and get a handful of almonds from the cupboard than it is to sit and concentrate…

Thanks Nama
I lost a kilo it seems, but mainly what I hadn’t lost during trips to Rome, Lisbon and the UK in the past month or so.

Maybe I should ask my doctor before doing it every two weeks
, though I know he will agree.
My BMI is now 30, so I am on the cusp of overweighT.Hopefully the distasteful five letter word beginning with O will disappear from the vocabulary

Oh Wiwi, I am laughing so much, plus I think I can hear the mandolin chuckling in the cupboard!
Good idea to check with your doc… Love your work!

Nama,

Your mandolin is probably quaking in fear as it cowers in the cupboard, listening to your footsteps in the kitchen, holding it’s breath when the footsteps stop, wondering if you’re outside it’s door and what unspeakable things you might try and make it do next… It didn’t want to bite you, but you were holding it down, it was weeping (tears of celery) and struggling to breath as you rammed a head of celery in it’s poor little mouth…

Wiwi, please don’t make me play the part of the mandolin!

Happy, hehe! 😆 😆

Wiwi,

Well done on the five day fast. Did you suffer any ill effects?

Simco posted a link on another thread to a YouTube clip which explains water fasting in detail…bad breath, body odour, exudate from mucous membranes, and basically that you pretty much need to do nothing while doing it except rest.

I wouldn’t be prepared to take a week’s leave and then ‘waste’ it doing nothing. Did normal life continue on FMD?

Morning/evening all.

Another fine if slightly cloudy morning.
Jojo, glas to hear you feel that the exercises are going to make a difference. I am considering a consultation with the physiotherapist at the gym, and I might investigate this week.

Nama, it isn’t you or the mandolin that is at fault but the food of the devil aka celery. Disgusting stuff……..

Glad you enjoyed my trip info. That was just the tip of the iceberg. I was surprised how much there was to see in such a small place, and we only went to a couple of galleries and museums as we didn’t want to spend all our time rushing around as we needed time for our favourite pastime, sitting outside in the sunshine with a drink watching the world go by. Bruges was great as there is the huge Markt square, numerous small ones, and numerous canalside cafés, bars and restaurants.
Of course that means I’ll have to return to Bruges at some point to see all that I missed and check out some more beers 😉

Sorry for the typo, Jojo. Feijoas are a South American fruit that grow well in the subtropics (and struggle here in Wellington). Lovely flavour, ripen in autumn when there’s not much else around, scrap the flesh out on my muesli for a lovely breakfast or boil them up for preserves when I get bags from son’s parents-in-laws. I grew up with a hedge of them, so have always had them around.

Good morning all, well tomorrow I’ll find out how well (or otherwise) my arm has been healing (fingers etc crossed all is well). Still loads of pain but trying to cut down on pain relief particularly on weekends and thankfully am down to 3 per day now but occasionally it’s not enough but try to muddle through when I can.

Wow stories of the mandolin roll through here, loved the saga 🙂

Very cold here on the plains, currently risen to 4oC (for me anything under 20oC is cold, under 15 is FREEZING) and the cold really affects pain levels for some reason or the other.

Have picked up my paints and brushes for the first time in 8 or 9 years (since my dad died) and have commenced a painting, could only work on it for about 30 minutes but got 2/3 of initial layout in place, is turning out better than I expected.

Will maybe post on the FB section if it turns out okay.

Just glad I can get to my laptop in the mornings a little easier now (little puppy put paid to easy access as we needed to “block” her off from areas 🙂 but so worth it as she’s a little darling).

Have to run for now as need to finish getting ready for work and put sling back on (took off for this post).

Oh, not worrying about weight too much while on the tablets, still being careful of consumption though!

Tessy, I am always surprised that I’m not desperate the morning after a fast. I wait as long as possible (always a good thing to eat less). I have found it better to avoid starchy carbs so I never have bread to break a fast. Egg, mushrooms, tomatoes etc seem good. Or fruit and yoghurt.
Just completed a 24 hour fast with a corn cob and very spicy homemade veg soup. Nice and warming for our southern winter. Saving all my meagre calories for the evening meal allows me to sleep on fast nights.
It really is all experimenting to find what works for you, and the season. 😉
Amazon, my daughter is keen to go to Wimbledon. Any hints on getting tickets? P

Hi all,

In bed early tonight with iPad, tired out from a very busy fast day… used Bay’s trick and got lots of housework done plus huge pot of veggie soup made. (I used the food processor even though its electric with sharp blades!). I am trying something new to attempt to kickstart the losses again. I decided the five day (Mimicking) fast was a bit hard for me, so am doing my usual 4:3 but without any food at all on fast days. So far (10pm) I have only had coffee (with milk) plus lots of water with lemon in it and I feel fine. It has actually been easier not to eat at all, didn’t have to think about food all day. Husband got leftover casserole! I will reassess at the end of the week.

Great to hear of your progress AO, I hope your report was good today. I laughed when I read that you couldn’t get to computer because of a puppy barrier – now thats an animal lover! Wondering if the rest of SA has fallen off the world, either that or Nicky and RT are having a long lunch together somewhere!

Great that you slipped easily back into your gym routine Amazon, hopefully you wont be sore tomorrow. Why do you despise celery so much? I agree its not a food to love, but its a great filler in soups and stews. And I read once that it takes more calories to digest it (high fibre) than it actually contains, that has to be a plus! I can even eat it raw, very handy when the munchies strike!

Jojo I hope your day with the 4 yr olds was fun and that your hair isn’t full of paper mache! Hopefully you got another good sleep too. I think stretching should be a great help to counteract pain from spasming muscles. I used to nurse teenagers that had had major surgery for scoliosis of their spines and the first few days when they could only be rolled from side to side in bed, they often suffered badly from muscle spasm which was a reaction to the surgery. We often resorted to valium to relax their muscles as well as painkillers. Once they got out of bed and moved it improved.

Time to stop rambling now, as dear SAMM would say! Night all ….

“a very bad experience with braised celery…” The mind boggles!

Thanks Amazon. Enjoy the tennis. P 🙂

Definitely easier not to eat at all. I’m thinking of trying a liquid only FD tomorrow. It is going to be very hot so that will make it easier. If I can’t I’ll try to get by with a slice or two of chilled melon.

I have no wish to spend the day puking thanks……

Effective though. 🙂
Mr P has the same experience with watermelon from childhood. He’s terrified of it…along with most greens, tomatoes, etc. Amazing how instilled childhood experience is. He will eat a variety of veg now as long as it is presented in novel ways. Not the way his mum did! P

Hi PVE, yes very early for me and after taking more pain medication it’s finally bearable so will probably doze in the chair for a while. Have an early appointment this morning with the ortho surgeon so can’t doze too long. There are only a couple of commercially made soups that I can eat which is why I prefer to make my own (some veggies which make me throw up so I understand tge situation for other people when they cant eat certain foods). Hoping I’ll be allowed to drive again and be sling free after the appointment today.

When I was in Bruges I ordered mussels and there were chunks of celery in the broth, so I picked every piece out and put it with the shells 😆

AO, you’ve had a really rough time and hopefully the arm is mending. If you aren’t gaining that is a great achievement. I know if I were in your situation I would struggle not to gain weight.

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Hi AO yes you are spot on afternoon shift now and new routine to get my head around glad to hear from you I absolutely agree re the winter temperature scale you have submitted. Nama I see another film ready for the cutting floor a guy meets up with a casual female acquaintance with friendship born out of a common goal on an internet chat forum hmm what could possibly go wrong here 🙄
Very confident y-fee will not be quite as understanding however 😈
I was most amused at the commentary by journalist Victoria Lambert outlining the FMD Fast Mimicking Diet Prof Valter Longo But the 47-year old Professor appears to be part Italian midfielder, part Bambi; all in all a rather marvellous walking advertisement for the FMD.

Have a groovy Tuesday everyone

“It is easier to avoid eating than to stop eating once started”
Peace RT

Morning/evening all.

Another fine morning, cler blue sky amd sunshine, perfect for Wimbledon 🙂

FD today, and I’m going to try liquid only ie tea, coffee and water. I only need to keep myself busy until 11:30am when the tenns starts, so it shouldn’t be too difficult……….

Have a great day/evening everyone.

Hi all,

Amazon I hope it wasn’t just beginners luck, but I actually found it easier yesterday to not have any food at all. I had several coffees and lots of water with lemon slices and felt less hungry than ever! (mind games?) The scales showed a whopping 1.7kg down this morning from yesterday morning!! I know of course that that is not actual fat lost, but its encouraging. I usually only go down 1 kg at best after a fast day. It will bounce up again of course, but I am hoping for an overall nett loss if I do these fasts 4:3
I hope you are enjoying Wimbledon, you are lucky you can watch it real time.

Well done on the ‘real’ fast Happy, good to know you had not lost the skill! Hope you didnt lose too much weight. Not sure how to incorporate celery into a horror story, maybe if they were Triffid Celery plants?

I wish I had tried this earlier Purple! I got a lot done yesterday then had a hot shower before bed and slept well. Way to go!

Life gets in the way sometimes and I’ve been struggling for the past couple of months. I need to get back to losing weight every week and I am determined that over the next two weeks I am going to have six FDs and a couple of 1000 calorie days. I’m visiting a friend in August so I have a deadline and I’ve set myself a goal weight to reach by then.

Like most of us I’ve been on every diet there is including Cambridge and a juicing diet so I know I can cope with one day without food.
I am very pleased with how little I ate when I was away last week compared to how things used to be, every holiday was a non-stop grazing event only interrupted in order to sit and eat a meal!
I agree that it is mind over matter, and that is what is so wonderful about 5:2, yes we need to exercise willpower in order to succeed, but it is empowering in that it enables us to gain control over our eating and reform bad habits.