Thanks Purple! How can I be ever away from you guys and Fasting.
Check this medicine noble prize winner. It’s the WOL we are trying to embrace.
❤️
http://www.asianscientist.com/2016/10/topnews/2016-nobel-prize-medicine-awarded-yoshinori-ohsumi/
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Thanks Purple! How can I be ever away from you guys and Fasting.
Check this medicine noble prize winner. It’s the WOL we are trying to embrace.
❤️
http://www.asianscientist.com/2016/10/topnews/2016-nobel-prize-medicine-awarded-yoshinori-ohsumi/
I haven’t decided to cut anything out really but after loosing 84 pounds and feeling like I do there is no way I am going back there . When we were sitting by Dads beside last week I wasn’t eating so my Granddaughter brought me a sandwich from the M&S shop . It looked lovely but I only ate half of it as I wasn’t enjoying it . In the past I would have finished it whether I enjoyed it or not . last week I took Ross out for a fish and chip tea . Smell was amazing and I had a bit of the white of the fish ( no batter) was gorgeous . I then had one chip and I didn’t enjoy that much either . I haven’t ruled out anything because that WOULD be a diet . I really think of this as AWOL now .This you will not believe … NO ice cream for 2 weeks . I have discovered Quark with frozen raspberries or a Cadburys highlights and they are brilliant . I am more selective rather than just eating for the sake of eating now . I will have my steak pie on sat but watch this space as the idea of it might again be more appealing than the taste . NOW!! you can polish my halo lol . Just goes to show we are never to old to learn 🙂
Wee xx
Hi Bay,
My mince pies are frozen raw but I still hear their siren call whenever I enter the kitchen. I’m ignoring them until nearer to Christmas. They’ll be OK as they have some (very small)home made sausage rolls for company 😅😅😅
I’m in full domestic goddess mode at the moment and am trying to ensure my one meal per day is interesting and different from what I’ve been eating for the past few months. I love this time of year as I’m very fond of winter veggies and British apples and pears are fabulous at the moment.
I’m also doing ADF and only eating once per day at the moment so in order to stick to the plan my meal has to be really good.
Purple
Let’s agree to disagree regarding spuds and talk about things we agree on such as 🍷😉
Goodness! You guys on this thread sure have lost large amounts and kept it off! So well done to you and great for me to hear it can be maintained.
Hi HCB, Refocus. You won’t be content unless you do.
Just on potatoes (sorry) once upon a time i loved potatoes in all forms and a large baked potato was a favourite and easy supper. Now I wouldn’t. Don’t really miss potatoes, pasta or rice. Bread and crackers I do still have a couple of times a week and do miss often. Wine consumption decreased but will not even try to give that up.
Thanks for the inspiration all x
Hello all,
Barata I am so sorry about your aunt, no matter how old they are it is still sad when their journey ends.
Weemam, also thinking of you. It is a surreal time between a death and the funeral isn’t it? I am glad you have plenty of support and are surrounded by loved ones, but the grief still has to be worked through.
Great to hear from you Sarah, glad you haven’t given up. If I can keep 50lb off for over a year, after a lifetime of yoyo dieting, thats is absolute proof that fasting works!
Health Coach, sorry things are not happening for you at present. Be patient, you will get back to it when you are ready. Don’t forget your achievements already and dont give up.
I can take or leave wine, I enjoy a glass but like spuds, just not worth the calories for me! I think that is my biggest lesson in this weight loss challenge – I can be in control but I have to make some hard choices and my body just does not need as much fuel as I would like to feed it!! But the beauty of 5:2 is that we can ‘customise’ it to suit our individual preferences. Like everything in life, its not black and white!!
More great words of wisdom on Dr Jason Fung’s blog today.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/the-x-factor-t2d-21/
Have a top weekend everyone. P 😊
Sarah, well done on 19lbs lost! You’ll just about half way there, fantastic!
Jo, you’ve kept your recent weightloss very quiet! 66lbs! I knew you’d lost that in total, but then regained some. So you must be back at your lowest again then and have repaired the damage you did in New Zealand a year ago? Fantastic news. Well done you! You can’t be very far off your revised goal weight now then?
No fasting for me today, just hoping to practice mindful eating. My two recent day after fast days have been challenging to say the least…
Morning Jojo
In my view we have to do and eat what we can cope with and we all have our own non negotiables. For me it happens to be wine and bread/crackers and I will eat potato from time to time, and CAKE. While you may have yoyod a bit you are 66lbs (!!!) down and when I drop by this thread from time to time your physical activity is stunning. I intend to retire early soon from a very stressful and time consuming job and I will certainly be doing a lot more activity in the week then. If i manage a third of what you do I will be doing well!
Nama, thank you and you are quite right 50lbs in total would take me a bit under my target and under what I have weighed through my adult life. It is great to really understand that this is doable. Maintaining it is the real goal for us all.
I frequently (probably a bit too frequently) tell my very, very overweight lovely sister (believe it or not I am the ‘slim’ one of the family) about these kind of experiences and have tried to get her to look at the forums. She has tried every diet and has lost substantial amounts but never maintained and has put it all back on and then some to the point where she is dangerously overweight, despite losing 3 stone recently on the Cambridge diet, with their enforced artificially sweetened milk shakes which everyone needs for their ‘nutrional value’.
Have a good weekend everyone. I am sure yours is action packed Jojo.
Morning/evening all,
HCB, you’ve just had a holiday with your family and arrived home for Thanksgiving to be followed shortly by Christmas. No wonder you are having trouble focussing on what needs to be done.
Why don’t you try not eating until lunchtime for a couple of days and choosing healthy options for a light lunch and small dinner and then slowly ease yourself back into fasting. You’ve done it before so you know you can, and we are all here to give you support and encouragement.
What a lot of chat to catch up on since yesterday evening 🙂
I am fasting again today and I’ve got some of my lovely comforting and filling veggie chilli out of the freezer. Only one more left which is perfect timing as I need the space to accomodate Christmas treats and whatever I turn the leftovers into.
Jo, you and I seem to be back on track after both taking a major detour. I think we need to keep a special eye on each other and ensure that neither of us make any more but head straight for goal.
Wee and Barata, thinking of you both at what is a sad and emotional time for you and your families. You are each saying goodbye to a much loved family member who lived a full, long and happy life and I hope that gives you some consolation.
It is cold, grey and dull this morning so I’m going into the kitchen to make almond paste for two cakes. It will be a challenge not to nibble any as I’m fasting.
Wish me luck 😉
Have a good one everybody 😜
Good Morning,
It’s zero degrees Celsius here this morning and won’t be warm through the rest of the day.
Amazon thanks for the encouragement and reminder of events. I just had my coffee and for lunch a small cup of soup. I have a party to attend tonight and I am driving alone. That keep my drinking under control.
Also for the last 10 days I was taking anti inflammatory for that pain that never went away. At least now I am okay and I hope stays that way.
I love to hear the good stories! Keeps me motivated ❤️
Have a good day folks 🎅
Morning/evening all
Three FDs this week and the scales have decided they are not going to move,
typical 😆
I covered both cakes in almond paste and they are now drying out. I’ll ice them next week. I have some almond paste left which will be used for stollen as I have a couple of friends who love it and would give one a good home 😉
It’s another dull morning and warmer than it has been all week.
I have a heavy dose of lazyitis today and have no intention of doing anything more strenuous than reading the newspaper.
Have a good weekend everybody 😜
Hi all,
Firstly Amazon, I don’t know how you manage all that scrumptious baking without sampling it continuously! You obviously have more willpower than you realise! It all sounds so yummy!
Congratulations Jo on getting back virtually to your lowest weight, even despite all your partying! I can only just maintain with all the extra social stuff at present. You say you have not ‘cracked’ this WOL yet, but compare this to previous Christmases… you have certainly made some big changes. I think my biggest realisation, as I have mentioned before, is the incredibly small amount of food my bod needs to maintain. I think accepting this reality is the secret. You say you cant exceed a very small portion size without a gain. Well, this seems to be your reality if you want to get slim and stay there. All of us on here have been chronic overeaters, not realising how much we were overeating constantly. Add that to (sorry but its true) being older, eating much less food is simply our ‘new reality’!
Personally its vanity that keeps me motivated, but looking after my health comes a close second!
Thinking of you Wee and hoping the funeral was not too hard, sending a hug x
Hi Nama,
I’ve made most of what I bake at Christmas so many times I can tell by how they look and smell if they are OK so I don’t need to taste them, but I have sampled the mince pies 🙂
It isn’t really an incredibly small amount of food, it is the amount that naturally slim people always eat. The hardest thing is coming to terms with the fact we were over eating for so long that we thought it was normal!
It is definitely our “new reality” if we want to succeed in losing weight and keeping it off
Thoughts are with Wee and Barata and cyber hugs at this tough time.
The Song of Memory
When someone we love passes on beyond life in the world that we know and is gone,
A beautiful sense of their presence, like music remembered by heart, lingers on….
When someone we love finds a wonderful home in a world only faith can reveal,
Our memories can be like a song in the heart, with the power to comfort and heal.
Peace RT
Hi Jo, well done – thats a reason to celebrate if you are at your lowest weight! You are obviously doing lots of things right! Re the thin friends who eat a lot, I think they are in the minority. And I am certain the large folk you see exercising do then overindulge, thinking they have earnt it with their exercise.
I never said I would find 3oz salmon and a salad satisfying, it would need to be a huge salad. And one egg certainly would not be a meal for me! I fear you are still thinking of food as ‘forbidden fruit’ and feel some resentment that you cant indulge as much if you want to lose weight. If you love bread so much, incorporate it into 5:2, I certainly do. I personally dont miss rice, pasta or potatoes and happy to never have them again, BUT I love a slice of nice sourdough or pane de casa for a treat. Probably 3-4 times a week. I think if you believe you are addicted to it and try to avoid it totally, you will just crave it more. I think Amazon follows this philosophy too. It is one of the reasons 5:2 has worked for me.
I also wonder about the amount of activity you do and if it makes you extra hungry? For me, the calories burnt with any exercise dont get factored in, they are just a bonus.
Great idea to spring clean your kitchen, clean cupboards are good for the soul!!
We are off to Lorne on the Great Ocean Road for a few days tomorrow. The place we stay at has the best buffet breakfasts, so there won’t be lunch on those days! Actually I cant eat a big breakfast these days, but am looking forward to their fantastic bircher meusli! Ahh retirement is hard…
Oh Jo I didnt say to avoid bread entirely – I think you ‘speed read’ sometimes! I said the opposite: if you love it so much, have a limited amount. Then it does not have that hold over you, as forbidden fruit. Thats what works for me anyway! Obviously one has to be strict with limiting it though.
I am glad slimmers world seems to be helping you – thats so funny re you becoming a counsellor for them. You would be sacked for spreading ‘lies’!! But if you need the support and they can provide it, great!
Yes, the 12 Apostles are down that way (G. Ocean Rd). Lorne is not as far, before the really dramatic scenery, but its a still a pretty seaside town with lots of lovely shops, a good beach (its in a bay) and the bush surrounding. I have seen kangaroos and wallabies there, in the streets just a few up from the main road and there are some great walks – beach and waterfalls. We have had a very long winter, so I am hoping for a few days of sunshine to make the most of it!
Morning/evening all,
Cold, frosty and sunshine this morning 🌞
I had drinks with a friend yesterday which led to overeating so it is a half TDEE day today to compensate.
I’ve woken up with a head cold which is really annoying but hopefully that is all it is and I don’t end up with a chest infection.
I have an old friend who is five years older than me and we worked together for 30 odd years. She has always been slim and done regular exercise. She has also led a very busy social life, eating out several times a week. She always ate and drank plenty and people would say she was lucky to stay so slim, it must be her metabolism, blah blah blah, but if you paid attention as I did, she never ate breakfast and would either eat something during her coffee break or have lunch. Often lunch would be cottage cheese and an apple or a small salad and sometimes she played squash during her lunch break. If she wasn’t going out to eat she would have a light dinner.
If there were cakes or biscuits around she might have a small piece or one biscuit and she liked a chocolate bar occasionally but she was in control of what she ate and had a “normal” relationship with food, something that those of us who have yo-yo dieted or overeaten for so long don’t have and need to remedy.
If I compare that to what I did, which was eat everything I could lay my hands on every day, it is easy to see how she stayed slim, she did what we are learning to do, moderate our eating so that over the course of a week we eat no more than 7 x TDEE.
I have missed the gym this week and am looking forward to going back next week now that my knee is OK.
Jo, I don’t know why you think you need to go out for a walk in the evenings when you’ve been active all day, your mind and body need time to unwind and relax at the end of the day.
Have a good one everybody 😜
Nama,
You posted while I was writing my epic. I have two cakes on display in the kitchen as the almond paste is drying out, and my own cake is decorated and ready to go. It is in a plastic cake box on top of the fridge and I can see it every time I go to the kitchen.
I love cake but I’m much better at not eating too much at a time than I’ve ever been.
Bread consumption is a work in progress, but getting much better due to trying to limit myself to one meal per day at the moment, something which went awry yesterday 😆
Oh Amazon, I am going to dream about your cakes tonight!! The one on the fridge would be safe as long as no one cut it!! Once cut, one slice would never be enough and it would beckon continuously!
My husband loves bread with his evening meal so we have worked out a way to manage it. We cut the loaf into ‘chunks’ before freezing it and only thaw out one chunk at a time. That way he can slice it as he likes and I just have a small slice if it works on a particular day. If there was a whole loaf on view it would be too hard for me to resist. And I certainly dont have it more than 3-4 times a week. If I have been over socializing (read: overindulging), I skip the bread for a week or so. Needless to say, husband has a ‘normal’ relationship with food and nothing is banned! He enjoys food but knows when he has had enough!
” a work in progress” – thats so true!!
As we so often say 5:2 is a WOL and as with anything else there are ups and downs that have to be negotiated. It does get easier and I no longer feel guilty if I’ve overdone it I just remind myself I’m human and move on. It’s my journey and I’ll get there at my own pace, making my own choices and the only person who it really matters to is me.
Check out this excellent link posted on the Southern Hemisphere thread:
https://sa.fightdementia.org.au/sa/about-us/news/intermittent-fasting-may-improve-brain-function
Hi Fast Trackers & Welcome New Fasters And Hello World (You All know Who You ARE)
What a beautiful wrap up Weemam “I haven’t ruled out anything because that WOULD be a diet . I really think of this as AWOL now.” Absolutely a way of life.
Bay…….Amazon, go you wicked woman, you. I love reading your recipes. 😆 to much goodness
1. JOJO As a vegetarian ( Pescatarian) a person who does not eat meat but does eat fish.
“no red meat, my family are pescatarians” as I live I learn
Re-reading the orginal Fast Diet book on page 65 the great man Dr M also suggests he sneaks in some treats on his 5 days of not restricting calories .Fish n Chips roast potatoes biscuts and cake not counter intuitive at all just positive re enforcement I think re reading the book with fresh eyes is a very powerful thing and an absolute must have for any new fast trackers to make your own study of one.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/power-7-day-fast
I will be doing a 7 day fast this week myself (not a recommendation however but I am giving it a go) it is the final of my planned 4 day fasts for the year but I am very keen to follow this for the extra 3 days just because I can maybe 😉
“It’s is easier to avoid eating than to stop eating once started”
Peace RT
Hi All,
I’ve had a busy weekend with the mother-in-law staying, but little damage on the scales despite some large meals plus cake because I’ve eaten very lightly around that to mitigate/ compensate.
I think it’s easy (or suits us?) to think slim friends eat massive amounts… Oh the injustice! But unless you live with them 24/7 you’re really only seeing a snapshot and then extrapolating to form a narrative that’s more about your own baggage than the truth. As Amazon’s story confirms…
And Jo ‘The physical activity rules don’t seem to apply as you would think either’. Nope. The physical activity rules apply EXACTLY as we would think, i.e. weight loss is 95% calories and 5% exercise. We’ve talked this over so many many times, I don’t understand why you still think exercise plays a bigger role.
So, I’ve risen to Thinatlasts challenge to come through Christmas unscathed. Good to have a challenge, even as a maintainer! On that basis, I’m fasting tomorrow 😀
Hello Beaitiful Cyber Friends,
Jo I am so happy with your good news. The best part is that I am following your ups and downs for for almost 2 years I believe is whenever I joined the group and like Amazon said before “we are humans”, and we are!
Here’s a good testimony of your persistence. It serves as a example for this one here.
Today I had the last family turkey 🦃 dinner and I had enough of it.
My mind is set to Fast tomorrow and come right back to WOL. There’s no reason why I shouldn’t. 5:2 it isn’t complicated and honestly try to plan my meals better for the other days.
RT you are amazing! 7 days Fasting must a very powerful experience.
To everyone else have a good week. Downunders are sure enjoying better weather now.
😻🎅❤️
Morning/evening all
Another sunny, frosty morning with a clear blue sky 🌞
The half TDEE went well yesterday despite feeling ravenous all day which is what always happens when I get a cold. I took paracetemol and a hot toddy and had an early night, slept for 10 hours and feel much better this morning, still full of cold but no aches, pains or shivers. The power of whisky 😉
I am fasting today and determined it is going to be an easy one. I have some chores to do and a pile of Christmas cards waiting to be written which should keep me occupied for most of the day and I’m planning to fight this cold with a mind blowingly hot Thai style veg curry for my FD dinner.
Social plans for the week mean I’m thinking about B2B FDs which seem very easy compared to what RT is up to this week. Good luck mate, I’m sure you’ll do it 🙂
Jo, I have to agree with Happy regarding exercise. The increased fitness and muscle tone make it worthwhile and I know you enjoy it as I do. It keeps you busy, it may even keep you out of the kitchen, but it won’t make you lose weight any quicker.
Happy, I saw thin’s challenge, it’s an excellent idea for maintainers and those still trying to lose. I would like to get through without gaining and am considering joining in…..
HCB, go girl you can do it!
Time to get moving,
Have a good one everybody 😜
Sounds dreadful Jo, nothing worse than soggy pastry, yuck!
Good that you didn’t overeat but an absolute waste of money.
I’ve had a good FD as I had lots to keep me occupied and my Thai green curry was very tasty. I had enough calories to add some prawns and have another portion to look forward to tomorrow 🙂
I’m aiming to stick to one meal per day again as it worked well last week.
Unfortunately Jo, it is sometimes better to just think of the cost of the meal on those occassions as the cost of the seat and water. Enjoy the festive atmosphere and the conversations. The food doesn’t have to be the focus.
Next year, choose which groups you really want to celebrate with. If the food happens to be good, it is simply an added bonus. 😊😊P
Planning and setting goals is a great idea Jo. What are your plans re eating? Remember the exercise is for toning, feeling good and distracting. You need to include fasting and food choice goals.
My goal is to continue 2 fasts a week and keep in the 58kg range. I know I can do it and enjoy a full social life.
Cheers P
Morning/evening all,
It is proper foggy here, couldn’t see the river when the bus went over Kew Bridge 😯
I’ve been out to exchange a gift as I discovered the recipient has read it and did a few other errands. After seeing our fb page I took advantage of a special offer on cashew nuts 😉 😆
I only ever make one NY resolution and stick to it rather than trying to change too many things at once.
Next year my aim is to fit into everything that is hanging in my wardrobe but that is a way off yet and I’ve got things to achieve before then.
I seem to be on a plateau, but a combination of inactivity and medication might be contributing so once I get back to the gym (hopefully tomorrow) and get back into my routine I’m sure that all will be well.
I’ve only got one social engagement over the next 10 days so there won’t be any interruptions to my FDs.
I’m struggling today as I didn’t sleep well and have a sore back so feeling a bit sorry for myself but I’m determined to complete my FD aided by plenty of hot coffee. I found it really difficult not to buy something to eat from the Whole Foods Store. They sell lots of lunches and the smell coming from the kitchen was divine. I reminded myself that I have another portion of the lovely Thai green curry I made yesterday and got outside as fast as I could.
I also talked myself out of opening the box of cashew nuts on the bus 😆
Only one more gift to be bought now 😎
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