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  • Thanks to those who asked; I have just completed my first attempt on the ‘dark side’ at bridge. I know you’ll be amused to learn that we came 8th – out of 8! But I didn’t embarrass myself too badly and didn’t seem to annoy anyone by touching or saying things I shouldn’t or playing too slowly. Te he! My regular mates will have a good laugh about this score.

    Now to read the posts until now and try to get caught up.

    Lindsay, I loved the idea of cleaning out the drawers, purging yourself of unwanted clutter and getting your own maintenance and repairs done.

    Well done to the newbies for the weight loss so far.

    Quacka, maybe your loss will show up the day after the day after the FD. That happens sometimes. Hoping that you and Anzac can meet up sometime.

    LJ, those cookies look just like the ones I took to the neighbourhood thing the other day. But I bet yours taste way better. (I didn’t bother trying mine since they came from Coles.)

    I read the other posts, some twice, and can’t remember a thing now. Oh yes, GDSA is going on hols with DD (have fun) and Intesha’s dad had another disturbing fall. Have you thought of holding a family conference to discuss what support you now require if you are to continue as your dad’s primary carer? Never mind your dad’s appraisal of the situation, you’re the one needing support. As for your brother, “well great, enjoy that cruise because when you get back, dad will be coming to stay with you for xxx weeks while I go away”. Or, if he likes to be the one in control, “I’m going away when you get back so have a think about whether you’d like dad to come and stay with you or you’d rather come and stay here with him”. Easier said than done I know, but really, they will keep taking advantage while you let them.

    Good morning friends

    Well I’m sorry to say I had yet another failed FD. I was awake half the night wondering if I really can do this WOE. This morning I’m determined not to give up as the alternative is bleak….so onwards we go

    I’ll catch up on your posts through the day and come back a much more positive girl

    Anzac. Welcome to my world. I have done the same thing today. I frequently do, but as long as the good days outnumber the bad we make progress.

    Anzac I was about to write words of encouragement, but Penguin has done it for me. Few of us manage this perfectly – life and our emotions (and hunger) get in the way. But as our wise friend from the northern hemisphere says, as long as the good outweighs the bad, we will get there. Great you have woken with the motivation to push ahead. I think we weigh about the same – let’s do this together.

    I have been up early this morning to get rid of my racoon stripe, so had better go and wash it out before it sets hard.

    I’ll check in later, once I’m at work and between consultations. My last day – I’ve been awake since 4 am panicking about all that needs to be done before we go away….including taking up the hem of my DD’s party dress….I’m no dressmaker, but the shop couldn’t do it before her Friday night part. Oh dear.

    Well done Thin.

    Good morning from a still, close Melbourne morning.

    A hot day but rain coming, and cooler tomorrow.
    I am driving up to Central Vic to take my good friend out to a birthday lunch at ‘Rose Cottage’ which is gorgeous on a sunny day, so hoping the rain waits until we have finished.

    It is my mid week fast day which makes it all easier. I can concentrate on chatting with my friend, instead of food. Coffee ofcourse!

    Yesterday was a bad day as after my cafe breakfast with my sisters (coffee and croissant), and my visitor headed home, I decided to enjoy chicken and chips for lunch as a treat. Oh dear, it wasn’t much of a treat. I might never have it again. It filled me up for the day in a fatty starchy way, although I had some hummus and celery sticks in the evening.
    So veggie serves yesterday? Two sticks of celery.
    I’m going to head over to the Silly Season Challenge after this and write down my serves of veggies each day to see if that helps me get into a 5 veggies, 2 fruit, habit.

    Betsylee, I love what you say: “One thing I’m liking about 5:2 is that there’s no sense of deprivation, which I appreciate, as there’s always tomorrow.” It perfectly sums up why I love 5:2.

    Anzac, isn’t this time of year just hard for 5:2ing. Birthday and Christmas in your case! You are very good at making it a wonderful time, with lovely people. So glad your sprained ankle is healing.
    And how exciting to be planning a trip to Europe next year.

    I just saw this morning’s post. Don’t feel too bad. Think longterm. It is such a challenging time of year. Think of these few weeks as ‘data gathering’ and notice the challenges, which times and places are trickiest, how you respond. Get over the rough ground as lightly as you can. Then next year you will have a more realistic idea of how difficult it is and how much you can do to avoid the pitfalls.
    As for now, remember that a quieter time will roll around and you’ll get back into your usual rhythm.

    Penguin, well said!

    NAAN: I am not very experienced at making naan, so I am guessing a bit with why yours were a bit hard.
    I agree that not having the heat of the tandoor is always a pity. Slower cooking dries it out more which makes it hard.
    I use a yeast recipe, I think the ones that use baking powder aren’t as soft (they are more like a damper) and the yeast makes it chewier, which I like.
    Also the fat content makes a difference. My recipe has yoghurt in and I use rich Greek yoghurt, then I use oil on my hands when kneading and patting them out.
    Traditional Indian flour is softer than ours, ie less gluten, so I just mix them quickly so as not to activate the gluten, and then let it rise slowly.
    My oven doesn’t easily get hot enough, so I turn on the grill while I am kneading them so it is all very hot and then cook them under that fierce heat.
    Even with all that I haven’t perfected them yet, but they still always get eaten!

    Quacka, 300g down and a good fast day. Congratulations.
    Wouldn’t it be nice if 5:2 became a ‘thing’ with your work friends. Fingers crossed.
    I also know that scared look people get on their faces if we talk enthusiastically about 5:2. Haha. Nowadays I just say I am doing it and then answer questions if there are any.

    Lovely Christmas shortbreads LJoyce.

    Mrs and Mr Lindsay ( 😉 ) how are your specs? Fingers crossed that Mr L’s make a big difference. I hope it was a satisfying day of sorting and admin. Ooh I would love one of those!
    I found a silk covered notebook, in the op shop, and I am going to give it to little Miss 2 for Christmas, she will draw in it so busily!
    Aren’t their little brains just so amazing.

    Intresha, is your cookie fb group a closed one. I couldn’t see the pic either. 🙁

    Thin, well done on the dark side, it is all up from here.

    Ooh time is going and I still want to post on the SSC thread. Bye all!

    PS: Lindsay, a lovely post from you. Good luck with everything today.

    Good Morning everyone

    FD today and I have come prepared for the afternoon munchies. We have tonnes of cucumbers at the moment so I have some celery sticks and cucumber sticks all cut up ready to go. I have also brought some shredded cabbage to have for ‘lunch’. I have a beef stew in the slow cooker for dinner.

    Weight was down 300g more today to 67.3kg. I had a NFD yesterday and although I ate mainly healthy foods I did have a couple of naughty things. I went to the pick n mix at Coles to get some nuts and I found something new – coconut chunks. I bought 4 to try and they are very yummy. I also bought 40g nuts and ummmm a strawberry pavlova chocolate chunk thingy. I only had one of those but it definitely satisfied the sweet tooth. I don’t often get sweet cravings but yesterday I did and I know why 😉

    Anzac, I am also going through the same thing as you are. Last year I gave myself a break for almost two months from before my birthday until about the middle of January. It was a bad decision for me. I abandoned everything I knew about this way of eating and just ate and drank whatever I liked. By the middle of January I had put on a fair few kgs and I felt terrible. It was really difficult to get back into fasting for 2 days and I very nearly just gave up completely. This year I have decided I am not going to have a break but I am also realistic. I said in the Silly season challenge that I doubt I will be able to do two proper FDs during the holiday period. It is the time to spend with family and friends (and for me, the only time I get to have real time off with OH). Eating and drinking is a big part of doing this, especially food. I have a few strategies I am going to try and do just to keep myself hopefully around the same weight I am now. I wrote them in the SSC thread so I won’t repeat here. All I can do is try.
    Please don’t give up. I need you here! I mean that. Maybe don’t be too harsh on yourself. What about doing a couple of 800 cal FDs or just try eating very healthy, drinking a bit less and exercising a bit more, which is what I will be trying to do. It is really only a couple of weeks and then we can be back to normal. xx

    Hi Cinque, I’m fasting with you today. Anyone else on a FD? Good luck all and hope we all have a great day x

    Quacka, I’m with you today. Loved your post and what you and everyone else wrote for Anzac. Anzac, I can’t empathise fully because I’m only able to make this work by rigidly adhering to my FDs – it’s a fast addiction that replaced a food addiction. But I totally empathise with the food struggle in general – my NFDs are testament to that – and agree with everyone’s comments to keep going, try and work out what prevents you from completing a fast day occasionally and take Merry’s advice to get back on the horse. Please don’t think of giving up because I need you here too. You have brought so much humour to this thread, I would miss you terribly.

    Cinque, you are having a social week. I hope you have a lovely day with your friend. It’s funny that chicken and chips can call so loudly yet be packaged full of regret. I love veggies. But what does a ‘serve’ look like please?

    Lindsay, good luck with the hemming. I bet you’re great at it. At least your DD has a party dress! My DD doesn’t even have a dress for her graduation dinner which is a week from Saturday! For how long will you be away and will we hear from you while in Scotland?

    Intesha, as always, you’re safe to just ignore my advice. I said too much. I do realise that there’s no simple answer to complex family issues from the other side of the continent. I was just annoyed with your brother for allowing you to do all the heavy lifting – so to speak. Look after yourself.

    Thank you so much everyone for the encouragement. Have my mojo back and motivation levels are high again. I was moaning to hubby about the fact that I can’t go walking due to my ankle and Mr Practical said ‘if we strap it up couldn’t you get on the exercise bike?’ Well up there for thinking. So I will be doing that when I get home tonight. I find if I don’t exercise I turn into a slug – LOL.

    Penguin, sorry to hear you also had a bad FD. It helps to know others have the same issues. May your next one be very successful

    Awww Thin, such lovely words, thankyou. You have made me doubly determined to do this. I would be lost without you all on this forum. Sorry you came 8th! Chalk it up to experience and glad you can laugh about it.

    Enjoy your last day at work Lindsay and I hope you get everything done. I can’t even sew a button on properly so I don’t envy you doing a whole hem. Good luck! Thanks for your words of encouragement, it means a lot.

    Quacka, you are doing so well! Down, down and more down (weight, not emotions) and I’m so happy for you. The few sweet treats did not have any negative impacts and we need treats sometimes else we will not stick to this WOE. Happy FD and glad you are mega prepared. I think that was my problem yesterday – I was not prepared as I normally am due to being so busy on the weekend. Thanks for your really lovely, kind words

    Enjoy your friends birthday lunch Cinque; hope the rain holds off. I must say I am a sucker for chicken and chips (*anything* and chips really) but sorry you felt bad after having them. Thanks to you also for your encouraging words. I am very touched at everyone’s heartening responses to my negative post this morning. No more! Re NAAN, I use bread flour, yoghurt, yeast and water in my naan then use my dough hook to knead it. It has 250g flour, 3 heaped tbsp of yoghurt, 125ml or warm water for the yeast + 1 tsp honey. I am very new at dough and find it very sticky so use a lot more flour when rolling it out. I cook it in the frypan with cooking spray (used liberally). They sat in the oven keeping warm for about 15 minutes while we served up everything else so that might have contributed too. Thanks for your info, I am going to cook them your way next time and see if it makes a difference. I think the high heat will help.

    Hi LJ, Intesha, Cali, Gday, Minka, BetsyLee, Judy. Hope you are all well

    Ok, I have had a slice of low GI bread and half a slice of ham for brekky along with a few grapes. Have a chicken salad roll (Coles low GI roll) for lunch with a bag of carrot sticks. Snacks are 10 raw almonds and an apple and another small handful of grapes. Steak and salad for dinner with a couple of OH’s fat oven chips. I calculate around 1200 calories and my TDEE is 2100 so if I can do this today and Friday and have a perfect FD tomorrow I hope to kick back into the low 87’s then see the 86’s early next week. I. can. Do. This.

    Thanks again friends, you are worth your very low weight in gold………..AH HA – sense of humour returns!!

    10:30am Wednesday, another hot day in Adelaide with a change coming – very similar forecast to the one Cinque gave actually.

    I just got back from a 2hr wander around the shopping centre. That’s my walking and shopping done for the day.

    Anzac, I agree with the other advice. I’ll also add, that it’s worth critically looking at what “trips you up” on FDs. If you can see a pattern then it gives you an idea of what to change. Like thin, my problem days are the NFDs, but the process of looking for what triggered me to over eat was useful there.
    Hang in there through December and just do the best you can. I had a similar experience to Quacka 2 years ago and managed to gain 9kg in December 2016 by having a break from all my food limits. It taught me a lesson than some control is better than none at all.

    Cinque, you forgot the hummus, chickpeas are vegetables too! Oh, and the chips. Does the vitamin C in potatoes survive deep frying?
    We all have one of those starch-fat overload days occasionally. I get the impression you don’t do them very often at all, so I’m not remotely concerned that you are about to fall off the healthy eating wagon.

    Quacka, I sympathise with your pick-n-mix experience. Every time I try to get the nuts or dried fruit I need for baking I always come away with extras that were just too tempting.

    Lindsay, how did your husband go with his new glasses? Will they enable him to read now?

    Thin, I suspect the big difference with my shortbread is the ingredients. Commercial shortbread seems to contain a whole pile of additives and cheap fats.

    Time for an early lunch I think as I have to head across town for a 12:30 medical appointment.

    Have a good day everyone.

    Anzac, I am soooooo glad you have your mojo back x

    [Happy Dance] Me too Quacka!

    A suggestion…no-one needs to do it but I am on one other forum, a small one for Labrador owners around the world. We have a ‘thing’ where we try to mention one thing that made us smile the day before. It really helps to focus on the positive things. Shall we try it? It can be food related or not…

    I smiled yesterday when I arrived home feeling blue after blowing my FD in the afternoon and Mad Maxx pelted down the inside stairs and launched at me in a frenzy of excited, waggy, fur-flying ecstasy that his Mum was home. The bad day simply melted away…..

    Anzac, it’s a really great idea. Nothing like a furry friend to make you smile. I’m struggling to remember yesterday. All that comes to mind is stuffing my face with too much fudge and coming last at bridge. But the losers here definitely made me smile with their funny posts. And I loved the ‘worth your low weight in gold’ comment.

    So glad that you’re back on board. Now, get your act together and get those FDs sorted, OK? In my earlier reply to you, and hoping you wouldn’t leave the thread, I nearly wrote, “you’re going nowhere!” But then I realised that could be taken in a quite different way. That thought made me smile a bit because it’s so easy to be misunderstood in these situations.

    Yes’m [salutes cheekily]

    Hi Quacka. Yep I’m on a FD too. I get more veges on FDs than others Cinque. Lettuce, celery, little tomatoes, green beans, some cauliflower I baked with cumin this morning, and olives with a can of tuna and some tahini and lemon dressing (around 150 cals), then barramundi and salad for dinner + a square of Lindt dark chocolate (another 250) and a bit of wriggle room just in case my counting is off.

    Not great news for my Mr L yesterday – the optometrist said they could do nothing to improve the glasses he already has, and which don’t help at all with his reading. He was quite down, which is unusual . We saw our delightful GP after that – I’d had my shingles shot with him a bit earlier in the day and had told him what had been happening. He’d agreed that the specialist wouldn’t have sent OH for glasses had he believed there would be more improvement, but was very gentle with OH by saying it may be gradual but improvement was possible over time. The Dr usually just tells it as it is, which is our preference, but he certainly took an upbeat position yesterday. He’s a young Vietnamese man and such a good doctor, and is close to being a friend, if that’s possible in a professional relationship.

    OK my last consultation of the day is hovering. It’s a two-hour appointment, so I’ll be ready to close my computer and head off home by the time we’re done.

    Anzac, it is a lovely idea.

    I had a pretty hard day at work yesterday so it really made me smile when OH offered to cook dinner for us so I could just sit and relax. Knowing how hard he works it was a really nice thought and I did let him cook, although I cut up all the veggies for him.

    Hi Lindsay. I also get tonnes of veggies on a FD and also usually on NFDs too. On FDs I find they offer the most filling up ability for the least calories so I usually only eat veggies and some form of protein. Oh and also konjac noodles at times.
    Sorry the news was not so good for Mr L. I’m glad the doctor could be positive about it and you never know – maybe there will be some improvement in time. I hope so 🙂

    Thin shame you couldn’t open the link yes it is a closed group. I did check the link by posting and then going back to edit and it worked so I presumed it would open.

    It was some cookies made for the ladies goddaughter who had just graduated as a vet. They were in the shape of animals, paws and lab coat . Very creative.

    I can’t have a family conference because who would I call 🙄🙄. Anyway one day at a time just like 5:2.

    Lindsay, what is the latest status with Mr L.’s vision? You mentioned before that he could see shadowy objects – is it now better than that? Can he get around unaided?

    Are you saying that one square of Lindt is 250cals?

    Anzac, I was thinking about you as I was driving home from my appointment.
    You mentioned that you have a TDEE of 2100, which is high for a woman and much higher than a lot of the rest of us are used to managing. It made me wonder whether 500cals is just too tight a limit for your body. My TDEE is 1400 so a 500cal day is only a 900cal deficit. Dr MM has said that a FD calorie limit should be one you can sustain long term, and he extended the suitable range up to 800cals. It left me thinking that a slightly higher calorie limit might work for you as you would still have a significant deficit from your TDEE.
    Feel free to disregard this if you want to have another crack at 500cals.

    Hi again Thin.
    Yes, he can get around unaided – reasonably well, actually – but can’t read, which as you can imagine for a former journalist and now writer, is very very difficult. I’ve boosted the point size on his Ipad, and we are looking for other options now it seems the improvement from here on won’t be great. My son bought him an Amazon Echo which has been good for news and music. I’ve just upgraded his phone (he’s a bit of a Luddite, so had been quite happy with his old Iphone, but it won’t get all the Echo apps) for his birthday on Friday. We are back to the eye specialist on 21 December, for a review before we head off on Christmas Eve. (and yes, you will definitely hear from me from Ireland and Scotland).

    I am taking him to stay for a night at the Sofitel on Thursday, so we can wake up there for his birthday. There’s a family party at a golf club on the Saturday (in lieu of Christmas at our house), and the kids and their kids are coming for a BBQ on Sunday, so I thought a night in town would be just the bees knees. I told my eldest brother, who quick as you like arranged that he and his wife, and my next brother and his wife, come in for breakfast. Hijacked! (laughing ….it will be lovely, but bang goes our sleep in).

    Hope the rain held off at Rose Cottage Cinque – how lovely it sounds. And a silk covered notebook for the 2 year old. How beautiful that will be, to keep those lovely creative drawings from this precious time.

    Thin your confidence in my sewing ability is touching, but totally misplaced. Still, needs must. And my total dinner will be 250 ….132 for the barramundi, 70 odd for the salad, and 50 for the chocolate (I hope).

    I can’t believe this is my third post for the day – sorry to hog the airwaves.

    Thin, I have a lizard in my backyard. It made me jump as it scurried out of the way when I went out to empty the teapot. I think it’s an eastern blue tongue. It’s a fawn colour with black stripe bands. It looks quite plump, so it’s either finding lots of snails or it’s about to give birth. I’ve just put the birds water tray on the ground so it’s able to get a drink easily. I tried to get a photo but it hides every time I open the back door.

    Lindsay, I’m sorry to hear that your husband didn’t get a good outcome yesterday. Along with the others I will keep hoping for more improvement.
    I understand what you mean about the GP. I’ve also have a lovely GP and while it is a professional relationship I really trust him and I talk to him the way I would a friend. I don’t find this odd with a doctor-patient relationship because the issues you are dealing are always personal, sometimes intimate in nature and sometimes traumatic.

    Anzac, I’m not sure if it’s a joyful moment but I certainly had good news yesterday. I discovered a section of fence between my house and the new house next door was quite wobbly and making a lot of noise every time the wind blows. We are now well outside of the 90 day repair period when the builder will fix things that are wrong. However I decided to contact him as I thought the fencing may have had some warranty period attached to it that would save us money in repairs. The builder actually apologised that the fencing hadn’t been done properly and said that he would arrange and pay for the repairs. It was unexpected and a big relief.

    Quacka, there is nothing like having someone else cook your dinner when you’ve had a long difficult day.

    Intesha, those biscuits sound very cute, even though we couldn’t see the pics.

    My NFD has been quite restrained so far – that makes a nice change. I had fruit and greek yoghurt for brunch then an afternoon snack of rye crispbreads with avocado, chicken, salad leaves and cherry tomatoes. I’m not an avocado fan, but I really enjoyed it. (The chicken and avocado were both leftover from the family dinner Sunday night.)

    LJ, brilliant! I reckon you have hit the nail on the head. My most, and pretty much my only, successful FD’s are those where I’ve trickled to 650 or 700 calories. I’m going to try that from now and reduce slowly as my weight reduced.

    Thank you 😁

    LJ, give it a strawberry if you have any. I’ve just given ours some scrambled eggs.

    Thin, I don’t have any strawberries, but it’s welcome to try a few of the cherry tomatoes. I’m not sure it would take food from me either, as it seems pretty shy and runs for cover the moment I open the door. I used to see sleepy lizards and tiny skinks regularly when I lived in the hills but this is the first lizard of any variety I’ve seen since moving here.

    Anzac, I really hope this works for you. It’s always easier to stick to something when you can build a pattern of success.

    Anzac, glad you are back on the program. I hope the higher calorie count makes it easier to stick with. FDs are crucial to this WOE. Even if you go overboard on NFDs, the FDs should balance it out. Don’t let yourself even think about skipping or not finishing a FD. I had to do some serious mind blocking when I first started but after a while it becomes such a habit that it’s no big deal. You can do this.

    Lindsay, I’m sorry the optometrist wasn’t very positive yesterday. Might a second opinion help? Can he wait a little longer to see if there is additional healing and improvement? I know the eyes can take a long time to heal completely.

    Intesha, I’m so sorry to hear that your brother is taking a cruise instead of helping with your dad. I liked thin’s comments about the falling episode.

    LJ, I didn’t mean hand feed it, just leave something out for it. It could be pregnant because the breeding season is earlier over there but it’s unlikely that you could tell by looking at it. They tend to puff themselves out a bit when threatened so that might be what you’re seeing. Or it might be very well fed. Lucky to have a wild one in your garden.

    Good advice for Anzac. Hope that works for you, Anzac.

    Also, I wanted to comment that I’ve been reading a few stories on these threads about people feeling obligated to eat for fear of hurting other people’s feelings. We must learn to deal with the feeders, not be afraid to say that we’re fasting so we can’t go to lunch on that particular day and also to be aware of those who might inadvertently or otherwise be sabotaging our efforts. What might be their motivation?

    Sure, 5:2 is flexible but that doesn’t mean we have to abandon a planned FD (and certainly not one that’s underway) just because a girlfriend fancies lunch out or someone we like brings us a piece of cake. I will only change my Sun/Weds FDs if it’s something that I really want to do. Not to please someone else. Just something to think about.

    Lindsay, thanks for the update on Mr L.’s eye. I hope you have a really great time at the special hotel even if the EFMs are gate crashing. Is Mr L.’s also a significant birthday? Good that you will be checking in from Scotland and Ireland. Relieved to hear that I misread the cal count on the Lindt square. 250 seemed a lot of cals to blow on that on a FD!

    Intesha, I missed your earlier post as I must have been posting at the same time. Then LJ mentioned the cookies. They sound great. Can you take a screen shot and then post it on imgur if it’s not too much trouble? Family conference – yes I get what you’re saying – you’re IT, but I meant with your brother, his wife and your dad. One day at a time sounds a good strategy – as long as you’re not driving yourself into an early grave. You need a life too!

    I have a friend here whose OH is a retired GP, and they took her mother in to live with them (I realise your situation is a bit different there with your dad) when she was in her eighties. She told me recently that she’d never have done it had she realised her mother would live to be 96 (and beyond) as it has been an increasingly big strain on them of late. Now the mother is very reluctant to move to a higher level of care despite several falls and moments of confusion. It is very hard on carers and their own relationships.

    Had a FD today, but not sure I can really call it a fast day – okay, the calories were probably below 800, but….. can 2 large coke Mcspiders from Maccas really qualify as food??? It was simply too hot for my comfort and I wanted something really cool, plus today was an extra FD thrown in this week as I’ve not been happy with the weight loss. Wedding buffet last Saturday of scrumptious Chinese delicacies was too tempting. My weight Sunday morning was up 0.8 kg from Saturday, and still hasn’t come back to the Saturday a.m. weight. Sigh!!! I blamed it initially on the extra salt and MSG, but now…..? FD Monday didn’t help a lot, so there’s today then Friday, and we’ll see what Saturday this week says on the scales.

    Anzac65, hang in there and persevere; you bring lots of light and interest to this forum.

    thinatlast, well done for the bridge effort. I used to play bridge years ago – have wondered if it may be a “post-retirement” hobby. I actually play Bridge Baron as a computer game, and enjoy pitting myself against the computer. Haven’t looked for a bridge club near where I live yet. Could be fun.

    Betsylee, try not to panic that the scales aren’t moving as quickly as you’d like, they can be unpredictable and hot weather doesn’t help as we tend to hang onto more fluid. It’s also good to remember that 5:2 is meant to be slower weight loss than traditional diets, because we only restrict calories 2 days per week.

    Penguin, it appears there is some drama happening in the house of commons at present. I hope our leadership issues have not become contagious. I hope you get a sensible outcome to both who is prime minister and Brexit soon.

    LJ. There was formerly a theatre tradition known as the Whitehall Farce. It has just moved a few hundred yards down the road.

    Good morning everyone

    I am sitting in bed contemplating getting up and feeling a few mixed emotions right now. I failed my FD miserably yesterday. I was going really well until the evening when it went downhill (think mountain slide). Weight today is 67.4kg which is only 100g more than yesterday but we will see what it is tomorrow as it usually takes two days for the damage to show up completely.

    Don’t be alarmed, it’s just a little wobbly. I’m not giving up. I will be doing Monday’s FD. I will be eating healthy light foods between now and then.

    I really admire those of you that can and do make FDs non negotiable. Keep up the good work. I’ve fallen off the horse but I will get back up and on it. For now I am putting it behind me.

    I won’t be hogging the forum today, but I will be reading. Have a lovely day all x

    Ok had a cup of tea and moved around a bit and I’m now 67.2kg lol. Weird body

    Sympathy Quacka, It is a wobble. It is the hardest part of the year. I hope today is a lovely day.

    Goodness Thin, it was on this thread you asked what a serve is. I’ll put the link to the Australian Dietary Guidelines as it shows serves of everything, not just fruit and veg. https://www.eatforhealth.gov.au/food-essentials/how-much-do-we-need-each-day/serve-sizes

    I’m finally having a quiet day (until babysitting tonight). It has been very social up til today. But lovely to spend time with my friend yesterday.

    Anzac the rain held off… til this morning!

    I am being philosophical that I am enjoying chicken and chips less and less. I can remember the pleasure of loving every mouthful, and I can do that without actually eating any! Win win.

    Your naan recipe sounds just like my one. Good luck to both of us next time we try them!

    What made me smile yesterday? All the glorious roses at the Rose Cafe where we had our coffee yesterday.

    LJoyce’s insight about your fast day limit is really exciting. Maybe with an 800 calorie maximum fast day limit you will find fast days easy and sustainable and will be able to imagine keep doing them forever. That will be the best!

    LJoyce, I hope the rain made your garden very happy. It is making mine happy as I write. Thanks for your faith in me, you are right, I feel so much better eating the healthiest food, and I love the taste of it too.
    So nice to hear about your resident lizard. Maybe you had better not get a cat! 🙁

    Lindsay, so sorry to hear the Mr L might be stuck with the sight level he has now. I can’t imagine how sad and frustrating it must be. Sight is so precious. Fingers crossed that your doctor is right and things might improve.

    I hope the patron saint of sewing, or the little pointed god of needles, or something else wonderful was watching over you as you did your sewing.

    Intesha, I’m so glad you have your own children and their families. I hope today is a lovely one.

    Thin I love what you wrote about people feeling obligated to eat so as not to disappoint people or hurt their feelings. Surely none of us would mind if a friend said no to food?

    Betsylee, those Mcspiders definitely make for unusual fast day fare! But goodness, wasn’t it the weather for them!
    You have started 5:2 at the trickiest time of year, so all power to you getting through the silly season. I expect you will feel so much more assured when normal life settles in. And you will be an old hand when we see a flood of new people coming on in January (happens every year).

    Penguin haha. The morning news program started an hour early this morning (5am) to cover the UK leadership challenge. Interesting times.

    Good wishes to everyone for an especially good day. I am going to have my post-fast-day breakfast. Whoopee!

    PS Quacka, keep drinking cups of tea, you’ll have lost a kilo by lunch time!

    Quacka, so sorry to hear you had a failed FD just like I did on Tuesday. Glad you are putting it firmly behind you and focusing on keeping it healthy between now and next FD on Monday. It is such a hard time of year and work stress just adds to the difficulty to not eat for emotional reasons. I laughed at your second post – weird indeed! I don’t know what your goal weight is but to me anything in the 60’s would be perfect. In fact low 70’s will probably do me as I am slightly above average height and very big-boned (thanks Dad’s side of the family – NOT). It feels a long way from 88.2 for me this morning (UGH). I had a very light day yesterday but still went up 100g but I know that tomorrow, with yesterday’s good day plus a successful FD under my belt, I expect a very good loss. It. Will. Happen!

    FD for me today and I am prepared physically and mentally. To up my calories a bit I have added a bag of carrot sticks to my lunch and an extra piece of fruit. So lunch is my usual Thai beef salad followed by the carrot sticks and I think this will help enormously. I always have them after lunch at work as otherwise I feel lunch is too small and the carrots seem to fill me up nicely. An apple and orange for afternoon tea then chicken and vege stir fry for dinner. I still can’t walk very well but am working from home tomorrow so will have at least two sessions on the exercise bike. We don’t have any social events on the weekend so HOORAY for that!

    What made me smile yesterday was all the lovely encouraging posts from you all. Thank you so much 

    Glad the rain held off Cinque and you were able to have a great time with your friend. I love the picture in my mind of all the roses at the café.

    Hi Betsylee, I’m not sure what a Mcspider is as I never have McDonalds but glad you enjoyed it in the hot hot hot weather you had in Melbourne yesterday. Glad to see it is cooler today. Thanks for your encouraging words 

    Thin, I agree with you about being able to say no when others urge you to eat or drink something you don’t want. Minka – your case was different as it was a loving gesture from OH and I think you handled it excellently.

    Great advice Cali about not even contemplating not finishing a FD. I think once you crash out once your brain thinks it is ok to do it again and again.

    Thin and LJ, we have lots of very large lizards at our place. I’m worried that Maxx will eat them one day. So far he just looks at them curiously but you never know what is going on in his furry head. OH just called to say he left the baby gate open to the kitchen and came back to not one, not two but three tea-towels plus the sponge in his mouth! He thinks it is a great game. We had to block the kitchen for this reason as we were spending inordinate amounts of time hand-washing Labrador drool from our tea-towels. He also loves jumping up and grabbing the paper towel roll if he can. He shreds it in seconds and we spend the next few days finding bits of paper towel all over the house. Sigh.

    Great news about the fence LJ! That builder is a keeper for sure. It’s hard to find a truly honest tradie these days.

    Intesha, honestly I want to kick your brother. I hope you can get it across to him that you need help and support.

    I’m so sorry you had some not great news about your OH’s sight Lindsay. I am an avid reader and can’t even contemplate what it must be like to not be able to do it. I truly hope time finds a big improvement. So glad that we will still be in touch while you are away in Ireland and Scotland.

    Hope your trip to Adelaide is/was great G’day. Looking forward to hearing about it

    Chat soon

    What made me smile yesterday was DD’s face when she came home from one of her tough exams. She’s always been the most positive, happy girl you could imagine, even through her teens but it was great to see the stress eliminated from sitting an exam that she is confident of passing. The exams are ‘progressive’ – they’re taken at a computer and you can’t go back to a previous question. They build a case using a series of questions which you must answer in sequence. As you progress, more of it is revealed so you can see whether you’ve totally stuffed something up – but you can’t go back. The case builds. If you spend too long thinking of an answer, you risk not finishing (as did many) so you really have to know your stuff.

    Quacka, never mind. Did you work out what happened? Sabotage or hunger?

    Cinque, thanks again for the serve information. I tend not to think of veg and fruit in ‘cupfuls’ and that may be why the general population doesn’t connect with it.

    Betsy, I use Bridge Base Online for tutorials and feeding my playing addiction when not at the club. I hope you find a club near you and get back into it. Yes, there are a lot of retirees but I think it should be taught in primary school when are brains are more pliable. I’d have been very good at it 30 years ago. I’m pleased to say that I don’t know what a McSpider is but it sounds like something to avoid!

    Anzac, good post. Maxx is at it again.

    I’m back to 59.4kg after yesterday’s FD. I did go to bed hungry but, as OH spent the night at a sleep clinic, I managed a good snore-free night and woke at 5am to see the Torys had come to their senses.

    Morning all.

    Today is a FD (& weigh-in day) for me, the other being Sunday. Have lost 2.2kg in my first week.

    Have managed around a family bbq Saturday evening, Xmas get-together lunch with girlfriends on Sunday, & end-of year gathering at a restaurant for a committee I’m a member of by fasting before &/or after on the day & then eating whatever (LC as much as possible I feel like at the event.

    9am, Thurs, from a cool and windy Adelaide
    Good morning SHs

    What made me smile yesterday? Wrapping my great-nephew’s birthday present and imagining him finding the box of lego hidden amongst the clothes (that he knows I always give him) when he opens it. He’s 7 today – I need to bake chocolate cup cakes shortly – his favourite.

    Quacka, of course you will get back on the horse. You normally manage your FDs very well and you will do so again. You would not have gotten your weight down to its current low level otherwise. We believe in you.
    I wish cups of tea had that effect on me, I drink enough of them!
    I hope today is a good day for you.

    Cinque, that cottage sounds lovely.
    That link you posted looks very familiar – my dietitian gave me that as a pamphlet.
    I have been giving more serious thought to getting a cat lately – mainly due to my niece’s family who keep insisting I need one. I should point out that they have 5 or 6 cats – I lose count. I’m not sure if the lizard will stay, and I can’t find it at all this morning – although it might be a bit cold for it today.
    And, yes my garden did love the rain, and I enjoyed not having to spend the evening watering it.

    Anzac, that sounds like a good plan for your FD. I really hope it gets you through that late afternoon-evening time which is sometimes difficult for you on FDs.
    Thin and I both have a habit of reserving some FD calories for the evening, just in case. I think Thin stashes a boiled egg away and for me it’s a hot milk drink. Somehow knowing I have calories left and can have something else if I want to helps – even though I rarely need it. Now that you have a few more calories to play with it might be worth considering that too. Knowing I can have more and not needing it gives me a feeling of success whereas if I have something where I know I don’t have the calories left to cover it leaves me feeling deflated.
    Yes, I agree about the builder, he’s a nice young man and so easy to deal with. I bought this house already built, so it came with a 90 day repair period for faults. This chap has gone above and beyond to change things that weren’t even his responsibility – he just said he wanted me to be happy with the house. I have no intention of moving again for decades, but I would happily employ him to build a house from scratch if I did. He’s just started a development 3 blocks from here and he did suggest if I wanted a layout and finishes that were my choices I could sell this house and buy one in the new development. Slightly tempting, but I don’t want to move and I definitely can’t afford the stamp duty. I also have nice neighbours here and I’d hate to move somewhere that I didn’t have that.

    Well it’s another FD for me, despite only doing one on Tuesday. I actually had a controlled NFD yesterday too which is the exception not the rule lately, so I’m quite happy about that.
    It’s going to be another one of those FDs where I bake as it’s my great-nephew’s birthday, but all of the cup cakes will leave the house. I’ll take them down to him along with his gift when he gets home from school. Normally I’d be babysitting him and his sister tonight but my nephew isn’t working tonight.

    I also need to go for a walk – the weather’s difficult as the rain seem to start and stop erratically but I can always do loops that don’t take me far from home.

    Hope everyone has a really good day today. It’s feeling like the right time for fresh starts and good outcomes.

    As usual some posts appeared as I was posting myself.

    Judy, that is an amazing result. Well done for managing all of those food events.

    Thin, so glad to hear your duaghter’s exams are going well.

    Interesting comments about about feeling obligated to eat because others provide, Thin. Back to our childhood patterns I suspect. Easier to avoid the caterers when there’s a group but not as easy when it’s just one person. Lunches out I can deal with – always a bare salad – but I fall into the category of accepting food to avoid hurting others’ feelings ….I wonder if they would really be hurt, though? Good friends, probably not. The others – should I even care?
    LJ that relationship with a GP is so important. I feel ours saved OH’s life. We’d been living in Vietnam when his 5 yearly cancer review came up so we missed it. A year later, and home, at a routine appointment, our GP noticed it hadn’t been done, and insisted OH do it immediately. The outcome? Another primary kidney cancer. It was small, and the kidney could be saved (a short back and sides, is how OH described the surgery), but the outcome would have been very different without the GP’s intervention (OH had lost the first kidney).
    Yes Cali, we’ll test again in the new year, so see if his sight has improved, or even sharpened. It’s a waiting game, that’s for sure, but hope is better than not having hope, so he’s back to his normal chirpy self this morning.
    And no, Thin, it’s not a milestone birthday – just a treat because of the year he’s had. A wander around the town this afternoon, a night out for dinner, and breakfast with the brothers and SILS.

    Anzac that was good advice to increase the FD calories. Let us know how you manage it, won’t you? Could be a strategy for us all, at this time of the year. Another 300 calories on a FD could be the difference between getting through, or abandoning it. I don’t have the discipline of others on this forum, and sometimes I can get right through til after work, and eat something that takes the count over 500. Having the mindset that I can have some crackers and hummus (or whatever) while I’m getting dinner might just get me through – even if I don’t actually have them.

    OK DD is here to try on the dress! I took up the inner slip, but the floaty fabric on the top will need to be cut, so I need to make sure it is the right length before I commit with the scissors. I can feel the fear rising!

    Penguin, is it that the House has confidence in Theresa May, or that no-one else wants the poisoned chalice? (genuine question – I’m not at all au fait with British politics).

    I promised myself I wouldn’t read the posts since mine this morning as I’ve just spent too long on the SSC thread. I have returned here for one reason only. In the car going to bridge this morning, I realised that I had spelled Tories as “Torys” and it has been bothering me all day. So, I’m here to correct it! Well, acknowledge it anyway since I can’t correct it. Hello to everyone who’s since posted, I shall catch up later. Hope your day is going well.

    What made me smile yesterday was an email from a friend that I hadn’t exchanged emails with for a long while.

    Thin, I meant to tell you congrats on being invited to the Dark Side games. It doesn’t matter that you came in last, it matters that you got to be there to begin with. Glad to hear that DD did well on her exam. Is this the last one?

    Regarding refusing to overeat at parties or social gatherings when food is offered, I agree with Lindsay that it’s more difficult in a one on one situation, like when eating at a friend’s home when it’s a meal they prepared. When there is a group, most people are too busy socializing to really notice what you’re eating. Actually, I think don’t they really care. When it’s a one on one situation, I have friends who have always been thin, eat at my house who will often leave some food unfinished, on the plate. I wouldn’t dream of questioning them about why they didn’t eat it all. (Although I might worry that they didn’t like my cooking.) Actually, I’ve noticed over the years that skinny people often leave food uneaten. As far as alcohol saying something like, “Sorry, can’t mix it with new (allergy or BP) med” always works if a simple “No thanks” doesn’t.

    Cinque, thank you for posting the link to that serving sizes chart. But you know what is confusing? A cup of peas or lentils is easy. But what is a half cup of broccoli? It usually has large pieces of stalk. Or salad? Is it a fluffy salad or one that’s packed down? The weights are more accurate.

    Betsy, I had to look up a McSpider. They don’t sell those here. We also don’t have a Lift Hard Hitting Lemon drink. It sounds like it would be a sour lemonade, in which case I’d probably find it hard to resist. I like sour things even a little more than sweet.

    LJ, I love the pictures you’ve posted of your new house. After all the decorating, to move into a new development 3 blocks away would be a chore. What’s “stamp duty”? Is that like a tax on the property? Is it a one time thing?

    Judy, great job on the weight loss so far! You’re off to a running start. If you can start this time of year, you will probably find it easy after the first. There’s so much fattening food around in December.

    Lindsay, I think you mentioned an iPad for OH. The nice thing about those is that it has backlighting and it’s simple to increase the font size with your fingers. Glad he is using the new Echo. Alexa ‘knows’ heaps of things. She’ll sometimes read whole Wikipedia sections if you say, “Tell me more” after you’ve asked her a question and gotten an answer. “Alexa, what does ______ mean?”

    Penguin, interesting political news from your corner of the world today and yesterday.

    Cali, stamp duty is tax imposed by the state government on sales or transfers of property ownership (eg houses, cars etc). The purchaser pays the tax as a % of purchase price. Initially it would have been a minor fee imposed to get the official documents “stamped”. Over the years the rates have risen and it’s become a major source of revenue for our state governments. (All of our income tax goes to the federal government.) I paid over $30,000 in stamp duty when I bought this house.
    At the moment it is a once only fee when ownership is transferred, however there has been discussion for some time that it should be changed to a much smaller annual fee so that it’s less of a burden. I think an annual fee is a better idea, the problem is that initially government revenue would drop alarmingly as they would not get away with imposing it on those of us who’ve already paid the huge up-front fee.

    Today was a NFD, didn’t go overboard, but with the rain, also didn’t do as much exercise as I wanted. It poured down, here in Melbourne, for a good part of the day. During one lull, I raced to the local shopping centre for a few things, but otherwise stayed at home. Did write our half my Christmas cards/letters (yes, I still send about half of my Christmas greetings that way; the rest go by email) and wrapped all my Christmas presents – feel a very happy glow of (smug!) satisfaction! I try to do the bulk of my Christmas shopping during November to relieve some of the December end-of-year stress. 🙂 It also means less likelihood of a complete diet meltdown (hope! hope!)

    Hi CalifDreamer, Anzac65 and thinatlast, a McDonalds Mcspider is just frozen coke with a serve of soft-serve ice-cream on the top. Didn’t you ever have lemonade or some kind of fizzy drink as a kid and put a scoop of ice-cream in it? It foams up beautifully, and in the hot weather is a light and (far too!!!) tasty soft drink. But, it certainly doesn’t qualify as real food, and also can have the result of over-caffeinated lack of sleep if eaten (drunk) too late in the day. I’ll just have to use some self-control next hot day!!!!

    thinatlast, I first played Bridge when I was a uni. student, and was reasonably good at that time. Those were the days!!! A couple of my partners went on to become players in the Australian women’s bridge team. But, I wanted a life outside bridge, and refused to devote 3 or more evenings a week to playing, so I dropped out of playing completely. Only in the past several years have I gone back to playing Bridge Baron online. Now I’m retired I can maybe give the game a bit more time, tentatively get back to it? (once I finish studying, probably!).

    Lindsay L. You could be right. There are a few of the extreme brexiteers who would take the job because it would be very easy to crash the negotiations and have a hard brexit, but their chances of getting it are low. Most of the others know that whichever way this goes, the PM of the day will offend half of the country. So the smart move is to let Teresa take the blame and then bid for her job. All of this supposes that our equally useless opposition continues to fail to provide any effective opposition.

    The PM seems to have more support in the country than in the House. Last time I looked she had the highest individual ratings of any of them, of any party. Not brilliant, but the highest. Of course that could be a sympathy vote for having to work with the others.

    Good morning lovely ones,

    Thin, DD’s exam sounds brutal but very effective. Hooray for her pleasure in getting it done well.

    People who are successfully learning bridge should be banned from making Alzheimer jokes!

    Judy, 2.2kg loss in a week. Big congratulations 🙂 and nice planning around that event!

    Lindsay, what an excellent GP. Mine is a gem too. I have several instances of how her thoroughness and noticing things have made a big difference.
    I hope the sewing session went well.

    Cali (and Thin), you are right about the limitations of the serving sizes. Weighing is more accurate. But then it isn’t an exact science. That is why they get into difficulties about which vegetables to count etc. The answer is all in context of the rest of the diet as well as lifestyle etc. They are doing their best to make it simple and easy.

    Betsy wasn’t the rain yesterday extraordinary! The next few hours look like they could be similar. I’m staying at home (my turn to do some Christmas cards!).
    Ooh another bridge player. What are you studying? Finishing soon?

    Well Penguin, kudos to May for her dogged working through. I hope it gives the UK a bit of a feeling of stability (somehow). Boris Johnson had his haircut for nothing.

    I’m in the middle of my run of NFD’s and doing well. Love this way of life!

    Best wishes everyone.

    Good morning all

    What made me smile yesterday was seeing a family viber chat and photos of my niece and her hubby outside their new house with the ‘sold’ sign. They are moving from Emu Plains to Penrith and from a very small house to a larger one. This is not the niece who recently presented the first grandchild for my sister (and my first great-niece or nephew) so I wonder if the patter of little feet from niece number 2 might be coming soon? I hope so!

    Well I had a successful FD yesterday – hooray! Weight only down 300g which was disappointing considering I also had a light NFD the day before but I’ll take it. Unfortunately as today is official weigh-in day, my spreadsheet will have to record a 500g gain for this week. GAH. But I’m back into the 87’s and the only way is down.

    Thin, I have been meaning to say that yes, shamefully, we do give Maxx some human (and bad) food occasionally. I was a bit flippant saying he and hubby eat the whole bag of chips but in reality he gets a couple only. You should see his face when he tastes salt and vinegar! I must get a photo. He screws his face at first and then realises it actually is pretty good then crunches away happily. Please don’t tell your DD!!

    I managed a short walk with the boys this morning, my ankle is healing well and just did an Aldi run. I didn’t want to go back there after the car accident but if we wait for hubby to go as he keeps promising we will be eating Maxx’s kibble for dinner. So I braved it and went as soon as they opened and there were only about 10 cars in the car park. Quickest shop ever! I was only getting the major things we needed but still managed to spend $239. Oops

    Lindsay and Cinque – I can also say that having a great GP means the world. We went to one for years and years and then they opened a medical center up the road. Our doctor was a few suburbs away so we went to the new place just for convenience and found the most lovely, thorough lady doctor. She immediately sent us both for tests that our other doctor should have sent us to years ago and they found problems with OH’s prostate that was luckily found early and sorted out via a small procedure. I had girl stuff sorted out that I thought couldn’t be so we are very thankful we found her.

    It’s very humid in Sydney today. Poor Maxx is passed out on my feet (I’m WFH) as I have the verandah door open and there is a bit of a breeze. We had a horrendous storm last night but thankfully they don’t bother him. I know some dogs are terrified of storms.

    Penguin, good luck with all of your social events. They are killers aren’t they? As my past two weeks have shown.

    BetsyLee, congrats getting your Christmas tasks done. It takes a load off your mind doesn’t it? Now you can relax and enjoy the silly season

    Goodness, I’ve already rambled and barely said hello to anyone! I have to go and dial into a meeting so hi to Quacka, LJ, Cali, G’day, Intesha, Judy and anyone I’ve missed!

    Good morning SHs,

    My smiling moment yesterday (and there were a few) was my youngest great niece (5yo). She refused a chocolate cup cake because she was keeping room for the ice cream cake that she knew was coming out after dinner! I don’t think I have that level of control now, let alone when I was 5.

    Anzac, I’m very glad to hear you had a successful FD. You can build on that success. The average weight loss for 5:2 is I think 0.5kg per week so if you can keep losing 0.3kg per FD you’ll be on par with what 5:2 is meant to do – especially once all the extra christmas food challenges are over.

    Betsy, when I was growing up we called them spiders, but the soft drink wasn’t frozen, just poured into a glass with a scoop of ice cream, which then promptly started frothing and overflowed. I think this is an icecream soda in the US. Not sure how they ever got called spiders here, what a weird name.

    I have figured out a plan of attack for my food challenges today and tomorrow that I think will allow me to participate but minimise the damage. I’ve explained it in detail on the SSC forum.

    Have a good day everyone. The rain has just stopped here so I’m going to risk a walk, that may end up getting me drenched.

    Anzac, I think I lot of people do feed their dogs human food (not that salt ‘n’ vinegar crisps are really human food although I absolutely loved them back in the day before 5:2). I won’t tell DD! She is currently studying that very thing for this afternoon’s exam. Over breakfast she was trying to recall the treatment for dogs having consumed mince pies – I expect you know that raisins are highly toxic to dogs. Over the Christmas period, the vet hospital where she works on Saturdays sees many emergency cases of toxicity from party food left in the vicinity of dogs – mostly chocolate. The thought of you & OH eating Maxx’s kibble is very funny.

    And the thing that made me smile yesterday was DD telling me that she earned a high distinction for her work in her specialist stream, wildlife (involving platypus research in Tassie, giraffe darting in S. Africa and wild donkey care in India). Sorry, I’m afraid all the things that make me smile seem to revolve around my DD. I must get a life of my own very soon as the empty nest years loom. Feeling despondent about that prospect so any strategies for coping from you wiser ones, appreciated.

    Off to make a second coffee and then back to the earlier posts….

    Good afternoon everyone

    Phew, what a morning! I’m sitting down with a cuppa as I write as I’m so tired from not sleeping and then running around all morning.
    I went into town just after 7am and did the last of the Christmas (and holidays) grocery shop. It was a big one! All we need now is fresh fruit and veggies and to pick up the oysters and prawns which are just around the corner from us. I brought all that home and then drove back into town to get a whole pile of other things I needed – new curtains for the room my parents will be sleeping in, a curtain rod for the nieces room and various other things.
    I’m yet to do the spring cleaning although OH started yesterday as he finished early due to the rain. He did a great job just getting rid of all the spider webs and doing horrible cleaning jobs like the exhaust fan thingy in the bathroom! The afternoon before I came home from work and he had cleaned our whole deck which now looks spick n span.
    I was going to clean the outside of the windows and screens today but it has just started raining again. A thunderstorm is brewing as well. I would prefer to clean them on a sunny day so I can see how clean they are and also because I get soaking wet lol. OH has offered to do all the insides of the windows and it’s a huge job as there are big windows everywhere in our house. He’s a good boy 😉
    Some of you ladies were talking about window cleaning a little while ago. My brother was a professional high rise window cleaner. When he had our shop he would always offer to clean the huge front window whenever he visited. All he would use in the water was a drop or two of dishwashing liquid! I doubt that’s what they used on the high rise buildings but he said it works really well for our shop or house windows. Another tip for the insides is metho. I use a chux and metho to clean our huge mirrors and it works really well too. I can’t remember if I wet the chux first….. ooops now I’m telling you all how long it’s been since I’ve cleaned them lol 😆

    It’s a NFD today. Yesterday I ate very lightly during the day and a normal dinner. One of the girls at work was having a birthday so her ‘cake’ was six small cakes from a specialist cake shop in town. There were some beautiful looking things like a macadamia caramel tart, a cheesecake and a banoffee flavoured little cake. She cut them all into four pieces so everyone could try them. I had two pieces which was about a mouthful each and they were yummy. I’m not a big sweet eater but when they are handmade and made with real ingredients I don’t mind trying some.
    Weight this morning was 67.0 kg. I’m really happy with that as I thought my FD failure would have had more impact on my weight. I think yesterday’s light eating day (even with the two mouthfuls of sweets) helped a lot.

    I’m trying to think of something that made me smile yesterday. All I can think of is when I was walking out the door from work I was smiling because I knew I had finished for this week. Guess where I had to go this morning? Yep, I had forgotten to do an important thing yesterday and so I had to go in for 5 minutes. It’s ok though as I was going to town anyway.

    Anzac, so happy you had a successful FD. 300g down is 300g in the right direction.

    Ok, I better go put all the shopping away and find some other jobs to do. Unless I fall asleep in the lounge chair here. It’s so dark I probably could at the moment.

    Take care all x

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    JudyS, wow, that’s a lot of weight to shed in your first week. What a boost.

    LJ, what fun for the 7yo to discover the lego inside the clothing package. I love lego, we still have the Hogwarts Castle. Yes, the 5yo has some restraint alright (thinking marshmallow experiment). Well done, if I’ve read your posts correctly, you have managed a FD, a NFD followed by another FD, something that’s normally difficult for you. What planning!

    I suspect if you get a cat, the lizard will find another home. Although well-fed cats do kill a significant number of reptiles and birds, surprisingly, there are a lot of lizard attacks from dogs. As yours is a fat one, it’s probably learned to survive. When we put ours in the front garden for exercise, birds often swoop in, perch on the lower tree limbs and try to intimidate them. The juveniles run for cover while the large, mature couple are unfazed. How’s Miso’s training working out, Cinque?

    Lindsay, hoping it was a marvellous night. Your poor OH has been through the ringer. I’m no seamstress (can’t seem to do many traditional wifey things around the house!) but I do remember how to do hemming from domestic science in high school. I share your anxiety in having to cut the fabric though. As my husband quips in his workshop, “I cut it twice and it’s still too short”.

    Penguin, at least T. May looks prime ministerish, seems dedicated to serve, looks like she means business and can string a sentence together. We have an opposition leader who cannot pronounce the ‘TH’ sound and we’re at risk of having a PM next year who uses words such as ‘wiv’. God help us. Funny how reporters report. I’ve seen a 53/47 result reported as a landslide victory. Yet TM’s 63/37 split reported as a severe blow to her leadership! No-one likes my politics but, then again, I didn’t bring it up!

    CalifD, I liked what you wrote about people leaving food on their plate when dining at your house. Quite right, you wouldn’t quiz them. And all the skinny people I’ve known leave food on their plates. Irks me no end but, you’re so right, I wouldn’t comment. It is still a bit strange to me that people I didn’t know when I was fat, think of me as always having been this weight.

    Thanks for your encouragement about coming last at bridge. I ran into my teacher at the club yesterday and told him to which he commented, “well you can only go up from here!”. I had a lady partner me yesterday who is a real beginner and it made me realise that I have learned something since the beginning of the year. We came 2nd but that’s no real feat in the supervised session. And Cinque, who said anything about learning successfully?!

    Betsy, I agree, some people take it all a bit too seriously. I can see that it is addictive though. I hope you can get back into it on a social level. I’m not a coke drinker, nor a McD visitor but I can highly recommend a tall glass of ice cold water! Envious of your rain.

    If there have been more posts since I started, I’m done for. I’ve been here and SSC for nearly 2 hours. Food and weight report on the SCC, I won’t repeat myself since many of you are over there too. That’s all from me. What a relief, I hear you sigh.

    P.S. Ok, I’ll just say hi to Quacka. Thanks for the window cleaning tips – where were you when we were cleaning them?! Never mind, they will need it again sometime. Dishwashing liquid it is then. How nice to have the Christmas shopping done. Sleep well tonight. Into the 66kg zone tomorrow?

    Well, the end of another FD and looking forward to the morning weigh in. One thing that made me smile yesterday was realizing that I haven’t picked up my reading glasses in about a week and can read without them.

    Quacka, our windows really need cleaning. I need to get at it soon. There are some spider webs in the corners of one of the high ones. There was a product I bought last year that was a plastic bottle that attached to the hose outside and dispensed cleaning fluid of some type. It actually did a surprisingly good job of cleaning the outsides.

    Thin, congrats to DD for earning the high distinction for her specialized work. You must be so proud of her. She seems to be completely dedicated to her studies.

    Hi to everyone and have a good rest of your day.

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