LOL thin!!

I must admit I did say a few bad words with the first weight. I may also have repeated those same words when the third weight came up and it was totally different, in fact I may have even added some new bad words and also I may have called the scales a few different things!!

It is kind of a good thing. It is a reminder to not place too much emphasis on those nasty little numbers 🙂 🙂

Hi everyone. Sunday night here and looking forward to my Monday FD. It was a sunny 24 degrees here today but rather windy which made it seem cooler. I think I may be getting sick because I feel a little achy today. I hope it wasn’t the bit of kefir I drank yesterday that had been in the frig for weeks. It smelled sour but not off. I added the grains to new milk and all looked ok.

Cinque your chair garden looks like the great Melbourne hurricane of 2018! 😁 I couldn’t figure out what that silverbeet vegetable you were all talking about was until I saw your photo. We call it Swiss chard here. There’s white and there’s red. I love it sautéed with a little olive oil, salt and garlic. It looks like you have a great crop growing there.
Miss 2 looks so cute eating her “tulip”. Such nice healthy treats! She has grown a lot since the picture you posted of her by the pool. Glad you were able to find a way for Miss 4 to scare away the insects. It sounds like the fear is the sort of thing she will grow out of.

Gday, congratulations on your engagement! Happy for you that it is finally official. How is OH feeling? Has he started the new medications yet.

Lindsay, I hope your OH Surgery was successful. We are all worried. But there is probably recovery time before he will know. Just want you to know we’re thinking of you.

Anzac, Quacka and Suz, please be patient with 5:2. Cinque is right, about 500 grams per week is the average loss. But the good thing is that it’s pretty easy since you only have to count calories 2 days per week and eat mindfully the other 5.

DS reached her goal yesterday but has now decided to lose another pound. She told me the other day that she was surprised at how well 5:2 worked. (I had been trying to convince her for the last year and a half.) Yesterday she went to the op shop with me for the first time. It turned out to be a great day because she found a winter sweater and a dressy jacket and also some casual jewelry that she liked. I rarely look at the shoes because I’ve never found any that I liked, but yesterday I spotted a pair of blue suede shoes that looked like they had never been worn. The soles were in spotless condition. I also found a Mikasa serving platter that I had been trying to replace for a few years, but it’s not made anymore. The first one I had, I dropped and broke years ago. I found another but made the mistake of putting hot corned beef and cabbage on it right out of the oven (St. Patrick’s Day a few years ago) and it was too hot on the cold platter and it shattered. I always liked the platter because of the raised edge, especially when I have to bring food somewhere without spilling it. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it for $3.79 at the shop. The shoes were also under $5, so it was a very good good shopping trip. Here are pictures of both: https://imgur.com/a/EwMbT9X

LJ, your crop of veggies and herbs looked beautiful. How nice to have such a nice variety so fresh from your own garden. Are you feeling better today? Good luck with finding a new refrigerator. I hate spending money on things like that but when they start to go, it’s such a problem.

Thin, your Christmas Silly Season challenge last year was just what I needed to keep me in line. I ended up hitting my goal on the last day of the year and probably wouldn’t have if it wasn’t for the support of the challenge. There certainly are a lot of sweet things around that time of the year, exactly the type I’m attracted to.

Anzac, hopefully the weather improves for Harry and Meghan’s trip. Has she been to Aus before?

Hi Cali, how nice for your DS to get to her goal weight. And a nice shopping trip in the mix. Prince Harry has been to Aus many times but this is the first time for Meghan I believe. It’s only 19 degrees! My wedding anniversary is in 10 days (26 years) and it was mid thirties that day. I prayed for a sunny day and got it in spades…a bit too much as OH was sweating when I met him at the end of the aisle (ick) plus there was a very strong wind. I had a long veil and it whipped up around my head on several occasions! Be careful what you wish for I say

Sounds like you are on a good path LJoyce. Good luck!

Good morning, grey and cool and drizzly rain in Melbourne. My garden is SO happy.

I’ve set the carrot drink up and if it works you’ll get photos! I do so hope it does as carrots are wonderfully cheap and yummy. The price of the purple ones have stopped me from buying them, but after hearing how sweet we are breeding veggies, and that we should choose heritage varieties, I wonder if they are worth the expense. Do they taste different, Thin?

A series of ‘The Diet Testers’ aka “How to Lose Weight Well” started on SBS last night and they had a little segment on konjac. Dr Xand was checking out if you could have zero calorie, or even negative calorie, foods: ie that use more calories to chew than you get from them. An experiment with celery indicates it is a myth, he did get some calories, but he went on to find the food with the least calories, and konjac was the answer. The chef whipped up an Asian salad that Dr Xand loved.

LJoyce, I used to have a big pot of French sorrel. It looked like this at it its best: https://www.mygardenlife.com/uploads/2011/10/6194_19.jpg and provided me with leaves for many years, and when repotting it I could give bits to friends. I popped it in everything that asked for greens, but my favourite recipe was this French soup, which makes just one serve, a good lunch, and was always a treat when I had lots of sorrel (and a leek):

Heat a little oil/butter
1/2 leek, chopped, and 1 small potato in 1cm cubes: saute 5 mins until glistening.
Add 2 cups stock and bring to a simmer
Have 6 – 12 sorrel leaves, julienned. Add half a few minutes before the potato is cooked, and then the other half, and salt and pepper, just as you serve. (The cooked sorrel goes grey, but flavours everything, the last added leaves just wilt and stay green and zingy).

Thin, such a sensible warning about the weeks leading up to Christmas. I am so much in the backwater now that I don’t have the run of Christmas parties and End of Year things on, for every workplace and social group. And avoiding sweet things makes any I go to much less damaging, but even with all that, the Christmas season is stressful and busy and messes with my routines.

I love how your Silly Season Challenges have allowed us to think ahead and make decisions about how we want to tackle the season, and break down expectations that we will sail along like we do the rest of the year.

Anzac, I hate cockroaches. (Survivor of a couple of infestations.) (Lucky for Miss 4, I don’t have one now!) (Touch wood and whistle).
How exciting to have your wedding anniversary coming up. Oh dear that hot windy day! As they say, if it doesn’t make for a wonderful day, it makes for a good story!
It sounds like yesterday was a very fasty Fast Day. Excellent. And sensible planning for the upcoming celebratory season.

Quacka, hooray for your Fast Day too. What cheeky scales you have.
I hope you are enjoying a lovely ‘morning after Fast Day’.

You too Anzac!

Sympathy to you LJoyce, moving house, family weddings and celebrations, and now Christmas thundering down on us. But you will do it, as you say, there are a few weeks yet. As my sister says: Don’t dare start thinking about Christmas until after her birthday (November 20th).

Cali, I do hope you are feeling fine now, and not coming down with something awful. You will be pleased to know the chairs are off my garden, and the seedlings are all bigger and stronger and enjoying some drizzly rain, so I mightn’t need to put the chairs back.

Re the silverbeet, when I was a kid, we thought silver beet and spinach were interchangable words as my mum used it whenever spinach was called for. It is chard of course, but we never called it that. I call rainbow chard ‘chard’ that has much more delicate stalks (red and orange and yellow ones) and I still call this ‘Fordhook Giant’ silverbeet. Can’t work out where the ‘silverbeet’ name came from!

Hi to Crickets, and congratulations on getting to goal weight. And now one more
pound! Great Op Shop trip! What a find, a platter you have been missing, you have a gain. And O I love those shoes too!

How are you going to manage your Halloween challenge? It seems to me to be even more difficult than Christmas.

Hey, all–

Just a quick hello, since I’m at work today. Love reading all the posts, hearing about life where you are.

It’s a FD for me, so I’m standing in solidarity with any others doing the same. The rest of you, holding good thoughts for you as you do your NFD.

Hope your day is filled with peace!

Hello LJ, Thin, Calif, Cinque and any other of you kind souls I’ve missed. I’ve been reading sporadically but just can’t manage regular posting at the moment. Things aren’t going too well here. With his eye covered, OH was virtually blind for a day but when they took off the patch the following day he could see and read some of the chart. He’s gone downhill since then – he can get around, but can’t read or watch television. He is due back to the surgeon on Friday, but they have given us an emergency appointment this morning, so we’ll know more then. I guess it was unrealistic to think he wouldn’t have some after effects – it’s highly traumatic surgery. As my DD pointed out, if it was a kidney removal (yep, he’s had that too!) he’d be black and blue and with huge dressings and we would expect it. With the eye, there’s no wound to speak of, no dressings either. I will check in later with the news from the surgeon – do you have a spare candle Cinque? x

Lindsay: I lit three. xxx

Oh Lindsay, so sorry for the distress. This comes with a wish for peace.

Lindsay, I’m so sorry that things aren’t going well. I truly hope there is an improvement very soon

Thin…neighbours…when OH first embarked on the backyard renovation the couple at the back said he could take a panel out of the fence and access the road via their driveway. This meant he could get a digging machine in to do most of the hard work. Then they changed their mind and made him stop about 1 month in. This meant he had to take the rocks and dirt down to the road at the front of our house (we are on a sloping block) in buckets. He cleared tonnes of rubble and now has a bad back and knees. Also a 1.5 year project took instead 4 years. And the cow wife had the audacity to often hang over the fence and ask why it was taking so long and how much longer did they have to put up with looking at a building site? Well. Hubby is a gardener amongst all his other talents so he planted palm trees and other natives that quickly grew and grew and now their house is completely obliterated from our view from the backyard and they no longer have a view over our house. Oopsie

Congratulations on the good FD Quacka, mine was too. I didn’t weigh this morning but will do tomorrow or Thursday. Fingers crossed!

I’m working from home and just watched Harry and Meghan greet Daphne, the 98 year old war widow who has met Harry twice before and they spent ages with her and she didn’t want to let go of their hands. Have a few tears flowing, it’s so lovely to watch

Good luck with your FD Suz

Cinque – interesting information about Konjac. I’d never heard of it before so I googled it and did you know is also known as konjaku, konnyaku potato, devil’s tongue, voodoo lily, snake palm, or elephant yam.

Better get back to work…have a great rest of the day everyone

Here is a picture of the fence separating us from the nasty neighbours at the back
https://imgur.com/a/6MeCTt2

Note the blue sky…it has finally stopped raining! More coming apparently but we were able to finally get some washing on the line as well as wash Maxx’s overdue bedding and get it on the line to dry and the house isn’t looking like a Chinese laundry any more 🙂

Anzac, I love all those palms and tropical plants at your back fence. It’s a jungle back there! It looks like a resort.
I just watched some videos of Harry and Meghan and it looks like it turned into a lovely sunny day after all. So sweet that they gave her baby Ugg boots and and a stuffed kangaroo with a Joey in her pouch. Very appropriate gifts, huh? Such happy news for their Australian tour.

Thin, plant a row of Italian Cypress trees behind the ones they trimmed back. https://www.fast-growing-trees.com/ItalianCypress.htm Planted close together they form a wall. 😁
Do they sell them on Amazon? Silly question. 😆 Snake-away at your service. https://www.amazon.com/Snake-Way-Snake-Repelling-Granules/dp/B0042XAOJI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1539658350&sr=8-5&keywords=Snake+pellets

You girls are cracking me up today. CalifD, honestly, I thought you were kidding about the snake-be-gone. You and OH (mine, not yours) must think alike. While I was busy painting the front wall, he went to Bunnings (our hardware store) and popped in to their garden centre to pick up some lilly pilly trees for just that purpose. They grow 2m per year, form a thick hedge and have the nickname, ‘goodbye neighbours’. To be fair though, he did also significantly trim our mature bay leaf tree today (at the tenants’ request because the bay leaves apparently fall into their BBQ!) but pruning this one won’t deliver more sunshine to their pool. You can’t please some people – I’d be happy if I had readily available herbs falling onto my food.

Quacka, don’t worry, CalifD will soon be posting Amazon’s neighbour repellent link. I have faith in her.

7:22pm, Tues Adelaide

Hi all, I’m a bit late checking in today and as usual you’ve been a chatty lot – I have a bit to catch up on. Multiple doctors appointments kept me out of the house for much of the day – and some overdue grocery shopping. (Running out of milk for cups of tea is the one thing that will force me to the supermarket!)

Lindsay, thankyou for letting us know how your husband is going. I hope it’s just more time to heal that he needs and that his sight will improve.

Thin, I’d have thought fresh bay leaves on the barbie would be an advantage – goes beautifully with lamb!

Quacka, so pleased that your Monday FD went so well after your difficulties last week.

Suz, I hope you’ve had an easy FD today.

Cali, You have to be making that up! I can’t believe snake repelling granules even exist, let alone are sold on Amazon. No wonder Sears filed for bankruptcy today – I bet they didn’t sell snake repelling granules! 😀
As to the baby gifts that were given to Meghan and Harry – I expect there will be an avalanche of such gifts every time they show up in public now.

Anzac, your effort to screen out those unhelpful neighbours have been rather successful. It reminds me I need to decide what shrubs to plant along my back fence. Luckily the lady over the fence is a lovely neighbour, but I want to screen out some of the western sun and the fence.

Cinque, thankyou for the sorrel soup recipe. I will try it once my sorrel plant has grown a bit – the leaves are all pretty tiny at present. Fine as garnish but not up to much else yet. I actually think this could be ok calorie wise for a FD as long as I use a small potato. I can also imagine this soup working as described and also pureed.
I also saw the Diet Testers last night. I spent half the episode trying to figure out if it was new or a rerun. As I couldn’t remember the konjac segment I decided it was probably new.

On the subject of konjac and the Slendier brand that we are all familiar with I found some new products at Foodland (an independent supermarket in SA) today.
https://imgur.com/a/xSX4qyi These are Zero brand konjac noodles – a bigger packet than Slendier brand for a lower price. This is 400g (250g drained), so 2 generous serves per pack, and it cost $3.39.
https://imgur.com/a/o8uyC0P This is a new Slendier brand product – dry pasta made from legume flours. They have 2 styles (spaghetti and fettuccine) and 3 different legumes flours (black bean, edamame and soy). As far as processed foods go the list of ingredients is reassuring – legume flour and water.
There are two main differences between this and pasta made from grain flours: This pasta contains only legume flours and water. Normal pasta isn’t made with water all the moisture in the dough usually comes from eggs. Which probably leads to the other main difference – the calorie count is about one third of normal wheat flour pasta. Compared to normal pasta however this is a pricy product at $4.99 for just 200g.
I have used legume pastas before and I do like them, but I haven’t come across one with such a low calorie count before.
Once I have a chance to use these products I’ll let you know what they taste like.

Hello to anyone else reading who I’ve missed responding to.

Today was a NFD for me and I have definitely eaten too much. Only 3 meals with no snacks but given that some of that eating was done in a shopping centre I didn’t make great choices. I have decided to do another NFD tomorrow so that I have another chance to do better – the repentance I feel the day after I’ve overeaten usually helps me behave well. Then I’ll do my FD on Thursday – I don’t need to feel repentant to do that properly.

Have a good evening everyone.

Thin, Happy that you didn’t doubt that I could find a neighbor repellent on Amazon. Whenever the shrieks from the pool get too unbearable, one short blast from this baby ought to get the idea across that they might want to tone it down: https://www.amazon.com/Sabre-Compact-Sport-Safety-Audible/dp/B01AT3RFXW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1539710840&sr=8-6&keywords=Air+horn 😮

Good morning, all!

Thanks for all the good wishes on my FD yesterday–happy to report that it went well. Another one for the books.

So much here: snake repellant, neighbour repellant, more slendier products, sorrel, and a salad recipe that looks YUM. Thanks, Cali, for some salad inspiration. This forum is a goldmine!

Lindsay. continuing to hope that there is improvement in Mr. L’s health–and in the wellbeing of both of you. Do be kind to yourself today.

Wishing everyone well!

Good morning, grey and wet in Melbourne this morning.

Lindsay, thanks so much for taking the time to post. It must be such a worry at the moment, and so hard and frustrating for Mr Lindsay to do anything. I’ve lit another three candles for hope and healing this morning.

LJoyce, I think that sorrel soup was originally pureed, but i found I liked in better not.
Cali, I was so excited to find sorrel as I grew up loving the weed we called sour grass (an oxalis I’ve just discovered is known as ‘common yellow wood sorrel’). Green and lemony! We also have another little wild sorrel that grows as a weed, but I didn’t know about it until after I got my pot of French sorrel.

Anzac, all those names for konjac! (LJoyce, I had to work out if that show was a repeat or not too. So glad it wasn’t).

Thin, lilly pilly’s are perfect. I love the fruit so I hope they aren’t ornamental, but have pinky purple fruit to rain down on the BBQ and pool. Any complaints and you can give them a recipe for lilly pilly jelly!

LJoyce, I hope your big day out yesterday didn’t knock you too much But at least you have milk for your tea!

Happy day after fast day Suz. You have passed the baton to me. Wednesday Fast Days are becoming entrenched for me. I am heading out of town to see my dear friend who is struggling with her health at the moment. It was she who started me on 5:2 so it is easy to tell her it is a Fast Day, and we will have a coffee together.

The program on ME/CFS on Insight last night was really good. Did you catch it Merry? It did remind me how my health has improved since the hard years when my daughter was little. I’ve been frustrated lately that I am not able to do more, but deep breath Cinque. So grateful that I can do what I can.

I could see my seedlings growing yesterday, in the warm and rain, I think they are twice the size they were yesterday morning.

Hope you have a lovely day everyone. Fasting, not fasting, enjoying every mouthful of what you decide to eat, and every moment of what you decide to do.

Sunny, 29C, Perth

Cinque, I watched the Insight programme out of solidarity with you and Merry. When I’m whinging about less important things, you two often help put things into perspective (momentarily at least!) with your positive attitude despite the huge challenges life has given you. It was interesting to meet the sufferers, learn how they cope and to know that it is possible to recover for at least a small percentage of people. How frustrating that there’s no proper diagnosis or treatment. I’m pleased that you feel that you’ve improved since the onset. I’ll have to research that lilly pilly jelly. OH also came home with Swiss Chard seedlings so I’m looking forward to picking the leaves from that crop.

I’m joining you and Quacka for a FD. Hardly needs mentioning I suppose. Well done Quacka, so pleased that you’re back on track and feeling so much more positive than a week or so ago. I do love Brussel sprouts but they have to be cooked just right and it’s one of the few foods that I feel really needs salt. I’ve never thought of adding them to a salad.

CalifD, that salad looks lovely and would be a good diversion from standard salads. I like your idea that meat, when eaten, is not the main part of the meal. Thanks for the bear repellent link. You are too funny. OH could have done with some of that when he was attacked by a grizzly in Alaska.

Anzac, cheers to your wonderful Dad living alone at 93 with a bit of support from his kind daughters. Laughter and happy sounds coming from your side of the fence are unlikely to annoy anyone.

Suz, glad your FD went well. Another one under your belt. Yes, we do go on!

Lindsay, I don’t want to add pressure on you to post but, if you are reading, just wanted you to know I’m thinking of you and we’re all cheering Mr L. on for a good outcome.

Have a wonderful day all.

One of my closest friends had CFS in her twenties, so about 20 years ago. It took 7 years before she could have a normal life, her marriage broke up (not just for that reason) and she couldn’t work at all for about 5 years and then gradually did part time until she was better. She has never had good health and I suspect it was due to the CFS. Back then she was ridiculed for ‘having a holiday’ by certain inhuman disgraceful people and if it wasn’t for the fact that she is so mentally strong I think it could have ruined her whole life, rather than a chunk of it.

I’m gathering that you Cinque and Merry have or have-had CFS by the posts above? I’m very sorry as I have first-hand experience of just how awful it is.

Tuesday 11:55 pm. About 13C and clear

I made that salad with the sliced Brussels sprouts, dried cranberries, walnuts and quinoa tonight for dinner. OH and DS thought it was good. The dressing probably helped with the flavor. It was interesting that several of you thought Brussels sprouts tasted bitter. To me they don’t. But there are several other vegetables that people have referred to as bitter that never tasted that way to me, and that got me thinking and wondering if people have different taste perceptions. After some research, it turns out that they do, and some of that is genetic. But the food industry also breeds out or removes compounds that cause the bitter flavor to make the vegetables more palatable to more people. The problem is there some of those compounds are phytonutrients that protect against cancer and other conditions.

There is a really interesting study here from the The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition that goes into a lot of detail about this. It’s kind of dry, but interesting reading. I skimmed some parts, but never realized that what we think are unprocessed vegetables can be manipulated for taste and nutrients, just like so many processed foods. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/72/6/1424/4729430

NFD today with too much snacking! I was at 59.4 this morning after yesterday’s FD, but I’ll probably be above 60 in the morning.

I like the name of that tree/bush, the Lilly Pilly. It sounds very Australian, just lopike the Coolibah tree. But then when I looked it up, I think that is the same variety of gum tree that we have in California, but we just refer to them as a Eucalyptus. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Lilly Pilly here but the temps would probably be okay for them. But it looks like they need a sandy loamy soil and it’s mostly clay around here. The berries are really pretty. And how nice that it goes so quickly.

7:24am Thurs, in an overcast and drizzly Adelaide
Good morning SHs,

Cali, that’s very interesting. I had heard that there were compounts that can make people more susceptible to tasting bitterness. The story I’d heard was about why some children don’t like the taste of veg like broccoli.
To me broccoli isn’t bitter, the only three veg that are (to my taste buds) are endive, radicchio and brussel sprouts. I suspect there is probably just one compound that these 3 have that I’m sensitive to – I’m glad it isn’t more than this.

Hi Cate good to hear from you.

I’m expecting tradesmen here shortly to do some repairs to downpipes and gutters. Hence the early start.

FD for me today. My planned dinner is a cup of cauliflower soup and an omelette with spinach & tomato.
Have a good day everyone.

Good morning everyone,
Wet and grey again here, but not too cold.

Making my morning-after-Fast-Day breakfast. Happiness.

Quacka, I hope your second-non-B2B-Fast-Day went well! (The hyphens are getting a work out this morning!)

Cali, a lovely salad!
I would definitely substitute something else for the cranberries. It was cranberries that made me link sugar with how terrible I was feeling. When I looked them up and found they are usually soaked in a sugar solution to counteract their sourness, it made sense that they made me feel so sick. I’d better substitute fresh raspberries. (I am a Brussel’s sprouts lover).

I just realised that lillipillies would be a good substitute (although their pesky seed might make it tricky. They are an indigenous plant and lillypilly is from the indigenous word. They are of the myrtle family, not eucalypts. But watch out: they might become a weed over there just the same! Different ones taste sweeter or more mouth puckering. Lots of pectin I think.

LJoyce, that tale of your dad is the sweetest example of undermining someone losing weight!

Thin and LJoyce and Anzac and Cate, thankyou for your solidarity with us CFS sufferers. It is such a frustrating syndrome.
Anzac, yes, Merry and I have both had it for a long time. Hence our relief that 5:2 works even when our lives are very sedentary. I think the hardest thing is that overdoing it makes everything worse, and so the ‘just do it’ and ‘push through’ and ‘soldier on’ ideas that are in our heads are counter productive.
Awful to hear of your friend, it is too common and we have all been judged in that way. But as you say, hooray for her mental strength and making what she can of her health limitations.

I am beginning to realise how coming to terms with CFS when younger might be very useful as I face all the things that tend to go wrong as we get older. Sigh. I hadn’t quite understood the reality of health issues when aging and how, as we get more and more doddery, we have to face more and more assaults on health and our lives. And our dear friends. And without the strength and resilience of youth. Hooray for wisdom and experience (even if it is just a morsel).

Cate, you are right about Multiple Chemical Sensitivities. It needs to be better known and better understood. It might be the most invisible illness of all as you are shut out of so much of society by the perfumes and sprays and varnishes etc that are everywhere.
I was afraid I was getting it. When my health was worst I couldn’t go near the laundry aisle in the supermarket. Luckily as I learned to manage my symptoms, it was one thing that lessened and pretty well disappeared. But I do know several people who have CFS and MCS severely.

Lindsay, I am keeping the candles going.

Well, I wonder what things I will be able to tick off my great big list of Things To Do today. I’ll go make a coffee and consider.

Best wishes to everyone. I hope today brings good decisions and a nice spontaneity, and some good news and relief.

Good morning, drizzle is clearing in Sydney and the humidity (and mozzies) have descended. Here comes summer

Yesterday wasn’t my best FD but certainly not my worst. I felt light-headed in the late afternoon and had already had my fruit so I had a few dry crackers and felt better. So that tipped me just over 600 calories but I’m not too bothered as I have a lot to lose so I don’t think it will be too bad.

Official weigh-in day and I’m down 900g! yay! So a total loss of 2.7 in 4 weeks.

Thin – I believe arugula is what we call rocket here. Sorry to hear you woke up so early.

LJoyce – how funny that your Dad used to try and sneak food to you. It’s just a way to show how much he cared

Cali – very interesting that people have different taste perceptions. I have always hated various vegetables and I thought it was because I was made to eat them growing up. But perhaps I am genetically geared towards disliking the taste? Hmmm

Anyway, must get back to work. Have a great day everyone 🙂

Good morning everyone

Day after FD for me today and I am pleased to say that it was a successful one again! I feel really good this morning and my weight was 68.1kg which is nice too. Strangely I have woken up not hungry (but I don’t know why I find it strange as that is how it was after FDs before I started doing B2B) I am having an almond milk coffee from the bacon cooking cafe next door and I am loving it. So glad there are no bacon smells today though 🙂

Very interesting regarding the bitterness of vegetables and how we all taste things differently. I know that our taste buds do change as we get older and so things we didn’t like when young, we may like now we are older. This is true of several vegetables for me. I love veggies of all kinds now and I seriously do actually love them and not just because they are good for me (and low cal). I am wondering if also it is because we can prepare them how we like them.

An example is my OH. When I met him he wouldn’t eat broccoli, or potato and pumpkin mashed together, zucchini, mushrooms and various other things. Basically potato,carrot and peas were his veggies. He loves mushrooms now, he makes mashed potato and pumpkin together when he is making dinner and he eats broccoli. I trained him with the broccoli by serving it with a squeeze of lemon juice over it as that is how we ate it as children. He will eat zucchini if I make it into fritters. He loves mushroom sauce with his steak. Although I made my zoodles last night and the centre part I chopped up into fine little cubes and put them into the bologanise sauce, hoping they would break down and he wouldn’t see them! He noticed them straight away lol but he still ate it!!
Eggplant was one of his worst vegetables and he loves it now as long as I crumb it and fry it (not the healthiest preparation and so I make it rarely). He will also eat zucchini chips crumbed and baked in the oven.

Argh I have waffled on a fair bit, sorry 🙂

Cinque, I didn’t know you have CFS. You are amazing 🙂 You too Merry. I really love that you have found this WOE and it works for you. Actually I love that we all have found 5:2 and it works.

Hope everyone has a really great day and I hope your FD LJoyce (and anyone else on a Thursday fast) goes really easy. x

Quacka – a crossed post! Well done on the weight loss. Glad to hear you are resisting bacon this morning.

Hi, LJ 🙂
Hi, Cinque. I think MCS & CFS overlap fairly often. Do you know if any of the people you know with both are members of AESSRA? It’s a very supportive & informative association. I know how badly I felt in March when I had a major reaction to fragrance. I would hate to think how that would feel on a long-term basis. I wear a mask in the supermarket now, but even with that on I itch like crazy for a day afterwards & am very tired. It’s great that 5:2 is so beneficial to you for weight-loss & your health in general, I would think.
NFD today for me, but only eating in moderation.