Hi 19Aly, in this forum https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/calling-all-small-ladies/ most of the posters seem to be less than 5’3″ (160cm) so you might fall into the ‘short’ category. Although the Australian Bureau of Statistics states that the average height of Australian women is 161.8cm so you’re close to the average.
Here’s the data:

In general, older people are shorter than younger people with the average male aged 75 years and over (169.7 cm) being 8.1 cm shorter than one aged 18-24 years (177.8 cm). Women aged 75 years and over (155.7 cm) were also 8.1 cm shorter than women aged 18-24 years (163.8 cm) on average.
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4338.0main+features212011-13

KNITOMAT- I can see there is going to be some interesting banter between us. Mine will be based on medical data and experience… yours referring to references…. This should be good!…….GO GAL

Oh i’m in Sydney too!! This weather is absolutely horrid! I’d rather take a fast day and be in bed watching movies or reading a good book!

Hello everyone. I’d like to thank you all for your contributions and advice. Gypsy, a special thanks to you and your tips re the dreaded bowel problems. I’ve just got back from the shops and have bought most of the goodies you suggest. As to the to Green tea and lemon. I found that Redseal make a Green tea with Lemon & Ginger. I’m defiantly going to give that a go. Re the weather in Tassie. We have had a most peculiar summer. The temp has been as high as 32 but the past week or so have been on the cool side. – ie 13 – 20. It’s a good idea to bring some warm clothes when you come. Tracksuit pants and a polo fleece top don’t weigh much. Also a parka or suchlike in case it rains. Anyone who doesn’t believe in climate change has their head in the sand. When you are closer to the time to come I will let know how to contact me personally. You are very knowledgable. Are you a doctor or dietician? I’m a retired nurse but my field of expertise was theatre.
It’s interesting that short people have more problems loosing weight. That would be me then. I don’t see much downward movement on the sclales but know that has to chnage. Good luck all.

GYPSY- WE …..I looooovvvvvveeeeee you too!…… LOL……GO GALxxxx

Gypsy, that was a perfect tonic. I laughed so much I nearly had an accident! 😀

Ta, Andy. Onya’. whatever wroks, mate!

Ok, so many discussions in couple of hours. What’s happening ladies and Andrew 🙂
Knitomat when you dont have exciting news thats not negative. You cane into the forum saying that the scales were not moving. You knew none of us here are experts , just normal people doing 5:2 or 4:3.
This is when we started sharinng our experiences and gave you advise only based on oyr experience. Then what happened??? You backfired at us and choices that we are making. Are you qualified dietician, I guess NOT…. You wanted help, we gave you support, but you didnt want it.

Negativity is not able to report weight loss or impart good news. Negativity is when you dont like good news shared by others. When I plateaued or CG or GG and many others plateaued or gained weight instead of losing. We DID NOT feel disheartened or disappointed when otgers were reporting weight loss at that time. YOU DID, this is being negative and not able to take motivatiin and inspiration from otgers successes is being negative.
We all know that we will get more support from the group here when we dont loose or when we gain. Thats the whole point of this group. You should certainly share reference but cant say that these references are right n what people are doing here is wrong.
Sorry but your posts come across as being JEALOUS of others losses n thats being negative.

Oh Gypsy, you card
Who knew? She’s a Bard
And all the while cooking
Up Brew in her yard

She’s such a treasure
And taken our measure
So sit back our friend
And pen at your leisure

We loved what you said
Are you inside our head?
I can hear laughter
From what we’ve been fed

We’re all quirky us lot
And we value our spot
If we listen and care
We’ll not lose the plot

So keep on each day
Up and down is the way
That things sometimes go
But we’re all here to stay

Couldn’t resist it Gypsy mate, I love rhyming poetry and dabble in it a bit myself 🙂

Oh Gyspy –
you’r a poet
And you don’t know it!
By the way when you come to Tassie. You need to have a Telstra SIM card as the other carriers don’t work out of Launceston and Hobart. Sneaky buggers.
Also allow time for travelling. Many roads are narrow and winding.
I’m enjoying all the chat. I heartily agree. We need to be supportive of each other. We all have down days but not necessarily on the scales.
Please remind me. What do the abbreviations stand for ? I know MFP not sure of some of the others
Happy dieting.

WOE=Way of eating
WOL=Way of life
FD=Fast day
NFD=Non-fast day
PRN=? not sure about this one.
But what is MFP?
BTW (by the way) caps lock in internet land us usually considered to be the equivalent of shouting. Just saying.

Anyone have any others?

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I am stunned.. I cannot believe what I’m reading. A very sad day for Aussie Determination, when you are singling someone out like this. I don’t see any negativity in Knito”s posts. She is just being logical in what she say’s. Some people obviously can see this, and some obviously can’t. It breaks my heart to read it.
Come on ladies… stop the crap and let everybody be on friendly terms.
If it doesn’t stop, I’m afraid I’ve lost my AD. 🙁

Thanks for the abbreviation explanations. MFP is My Fitness Pal which is a good app to use. PRN is a mediical term and means – when necessary.
I too don’t like the sniping and bullying. It’s not clever or nice. No one is perfect. If we were we wouldn’t be doing this WOL diet. Let’s just keep supporting each other.

knitomat,

I was bullied on this forum last year, so I know how upsetting it can be and how isolated and alone it can make you feel. Thankfully the bully no longer posts here, and I have found a lot of good friends and support.

There are many other threads on the forum, so don’t feel it’s here or nowhere! Indeed, Lose 2lbs a week – join jojo already has thread refugees from last year. Everyone there is lovely, all doing different types of 5:2 and at different stages in the journey, and all supporting one another.

All the best.

Well done Foxy! What fun! If you have the curse of the verse, you’ve probably been in hot water, too. (I have trouble NOT rhyming when the bug hits my funny bone).lOVED YOUR RETORT!!!!!

Not really laughing now though girls. I think Lindanaf has a point. I don’t see any intended slight in knitomat’s post. Dry, yes, but maybe we have to make provision for straight folk (..Um.. not that I’m suggesting We’re crooked, dearies, but I do own to being a little bent, myself… )…Sounds occupational to me (editors are trained to be grammatically precise and belabour the facts of any matter) …. I suspect this member is in need of a hug and maybe some relaxation therapy. (My rum would certainly help). Stressed out of her brain, most like. Did she not say she has been on a study kick for years? Canned theories do that to a person. Tsk, tsk, girls, we have an ailing soul here, not the enemy. Behave. I challenge you all to turn the other cheek!

You, too, Knit. Forget the ‘evidence based practice’ and stats. Just let your mind roam til you read BETWEEN the lines! And maybe see the funny side of things. I can see where being corrected every other sentence would get up the average nose (not to mention this highly individual lot – DA’s by nature, mate, not likely to back down..) Tho I for one am quite rapped to have my faulty presentation corrected by a pro (could never afford an editor for my published ‘werks’, result, dreadful bloopers!) Fortunately, breaking all the grammatic rules is my trademark, and..um.. not really aiming for a classical audience (in the usual sense). Vive` la difFrance ‘n’ all that…

Anyway, Dunno what the hell MFP (mighty funny page?)is. But PRN is (I was assured very early in the piece) NOT ‘per rectal, Nurse!’ But it is a medical term for ‘when necessary’ from the Latin route ‘pro re nata’. Thus endeth the lecture. (Am I old enough to get away with it, yet?) You play nice now. I’ll be BACK. gYPS

Each n everyone is very right here. Bullying should not be accepted anywhere.
Knito’s posts are targetted on individuals n what individuals say n suggest. All of us here are tgere to get support n give support. Posting references is very good idea n definitely helps other members. But posts or references should not be targeted to prove a point and put others on wrong side of fence. We all have read the book and even if we have not, so what? We all help each other and rise.
I am sorry if it comes across as bullying and I have no shame in accepting that I am wrong if my post meant wrong things. But this is actually what instigated these posts. People who say that there has been nothing wrong in knito’s posts , please read all previous posts.

When I dont lose weight, each n everyone jumps here to help me n gives suggestions. This is what makes me come here over n over again. To share my wins n defeats. Love the support.
Please read previous posts when we gave the same support to knito n that support backfired.
We all have our style of writing, no one’s perfect, why comment on writing style????
Well, that tells me its time for me to say goodbye to this thread. I am a sensitive person and cant see one person doing or saying wrong things n others supporting them.
So vice versa, if I was wrong in saying anything, i dont deserve the support too.
Good luck everyone with this WOL n wishing that each n everyone of you succeed in what ever you do.
Special thanks to CG for creating this thread as I have received immense support from here n will always remain oblidged for this. GG love you heaps n thanks for adopting me.
Foxy and Andrew you both have always given so much support, thanks.
FC, thanks for being an inspiration, your posts about hints n tips n cultures have been very informative too.
And luck to everyone else. Cheerios!!!

Hi Countrygal,

Sorry for any confusion! No, my unpleasant experience last year was on a different thread (Maintenance Chatbox, but by someone from the LOACA thread), not AD at all.

I was just reading latest posts though and saw that knitomat appeared to be getting a bit of a hard time. I was really shaken by my experience last year and just wanted to let her know she isn’t alone…

And yes, I do pop up randomly on the forum now I’m at maintenance…!

All the best, Determinators!

This has been one hellava day…. I am stunned to the core ,A VERY UGLY WORD….
BULLYING….. has found its way onto AUSSIE DETERMINATION .
KNITOMAT- is is very discouraging for us as a team to happily give advise and encouragement to you, which many of us have done, only for it to seemly fall on deaf ears. What can can we do to help you? I will be your buddy and shadow you ,if it will help. When we post our weight on Fridays there is happiness to those that have lost and also a great deal of support to those who have not. You said that you felt disheartened as everyone was gleefully talking about their loss. This should have never been the case. There is very little that you have shared with us so an even bigger challenge for us to find ways of helping you.
HAPPYNOW- are you sure you where treated badly on Aussie Determination?. We have only been a forum since September 2014… each of us were filled with so much excitement and determination on this new WOL and to gain better health.It would have been squashed before it took hold.
There is no place for BULLYING on this thread and ONCE again I cannot explain why some members have felt this way. Lets move on….. We have a fast day ahead of us tomorrow that requires our energies in other places. We are all positive people wanting to do the best for ourselves and each other so lets get on with it….GO GAL

Why didn’t I think of that Gypsy…I AM SENDING THE LOVE…:)

Who am I trying to kid….I don’t want to miss any of our TEAMS journey with 5:2…HUGS AND LOVE coming your way…..Eggs are boiling 🙂

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